Jesus resurrected and is alive now here is the challenge prove the opposite

September 3, 2016, 3:45 pm

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The debate "Jesus resurrected and is alive now here is the challenge prove the opposite" was started by fadi on September 3, 2016, 3:45 pm. 3 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 10 people are on the disagree side. People are starting to choose their side. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

fadi posted 10 arguments, wdz posted 1 argument to the agreers part.


fadi, KiwiSheepTrainer and 1 visitor agree.
Nemiroff, phantrash55 and 8 visitors disagree.

fadi
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yes

3 years, 2 months ago
wdz
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so you see no contradiction there between the different gospels trying to describe the same event?

3 years, 2 months ago
fadi
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mary the magdalen said that she saw one angel or two who told her why do you seek the living among the dead

3 years, 2 months ago
wdz
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i have the sections of the bible many times myself. Are you saying that the accounts of Mary Magdalene's trip to the cave are all the same?

3 years, 2 months ago
fadi
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what are you talking about he was risen and he appeared to his disciples many times after that as a proof of his resurrection to say that the bible does not say that he resurrected is ridiculous secondly to say that there are contradictions in this piece of the bible is wrong for there are no contradictions you believe that there are but there are no contradiction i ask you to read the bible yourself and not depend on other religious text to evaluate the bible

3 years, 2 months ago
wdz
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no one witnessed an actual resurrection; no one claims in the bible to see him physically come back life while he was kept in the sepulcher.
Even the accounts in the bible of when Mary Magdalene went to the tomb are all so different and contradictory (some stone moved, some not, an angel, or 1 man, or 2 angels?>, so how can you even trust what you are reading?

3 years, 2 months ago
fadi
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first of all to compare the apostles to suicide bombers is ridiculous secondly the apostles were killed for jesus name and for his resurrection to show us that their message is true so they had faith and never gave up their faith secondly they were sentenced to death by the authorities so it was not suicide thirdly they refused to give up their true message about the resurrection and at last i would like to say that all of the first christians witnessed jesus's resurrection so they couldn't have lied i mean not all of them would lie

3 years, 2 months ago
fadi
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no well according to your theory we must not trust history and thus who said Alexander the great existed well yes he did and so did jesus's disciples and so were their deaths you seem to have a problem in believing historic facts

3 years, 2 months ago
PsychDave
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Would you say all suicide bombers saw some of rise from the grave allowing them to have sufficient faith to become martyrs?

3 years, 2 months ago

the "history" of the early church has all been heavily revised. there is no way of knowing if those men were his disciples or if they were actually murdered. all of the church's version of events are heavily biased and edited. you can't prove that any part of Jesus' life actually happened.

3 years, 2 months ago
fadi
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why did they all give their lives for nothing

3 years, 2 months ago
fadi
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well why then were all of his 12 disciples except john murdered

3 years, 2 months ago

people are willing to die for it now. they certainly didn't see anyone rise from the dead.

someone told a story about a man who rose from the dead. a cult sprang up to worship him and a few centuries later they took over all of Europe. it is very easy to imagine. just look at Scientology for an example of how a cult can become a religion.

3 years, 2 months ago
fadi
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it did happen i mean people will not give their lives for nothing they must have seen him risen from the dead to die as martyrs

3 years, 2 months ago

you can't even prove he lived, let alone that he was risen from the dead. why would I have to prove that some man 2000 years ago wasn't the son of when you can't prove anything about him.

historically, with evidence prove that thor isn't real. or that Spartacus didn't rise from the dead. you are asking us to prove a fictional event 2000 years ago didn't happen. it is an incredibly rediculous demand.

3 years, 2 months ago
fadi
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and if you didn't then he is risen

3 years, 2 months ago

i mean historically with evidences prove that he did not resurrect

3 years, 2 months ago

Try it this way. Thor is alive, try and prove to me Thor isn't alive. and either the marvel character or mythical god will be fine.

you can't prove mythical creatures don't exist. you can't even definitively prove Jesus ever existed. let alone that he rose from the dead.

3 years, 2 months ago
blakelovesjesus
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Jesus can't be unproven it's not possible

3 years, 2 months ago

one cannot prove a negative.
to prove jesus is alive now one must simply find jesus.
to prove jesus is not alive now one must find every person alive and show how they are not jesus. that is a daunting task.

3 years, 2 months ago

well firstly, you made 2 claims, you need to provide your evidences for them to be considered in any way credible

3 years, 2 months ago
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