The debate "Let's discuss infinity." was started by
ototoxic on
March 6, 2016, 12:41 am.
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ototoxic posted 3 arguments, RyanWakefield posted 3 arguments to the agreers part. Sosocratese posted 2 arguments to the disagreers part.

I never claimed there wasn't..... But it's irrelevant. My argument is that our understanding of the universe is such that everything within it is finite. So as far as our universes is concerned, infinity is just a concept with no real world application.

Since we don't know what if anything exists outside of our universe means we cannot know if there is or isn't a real infinity. However, this uncertainty also means that we have, as of yet, no practical concept which requires infinity to be real.

In my first statement I said that I think there's an infinite number of Universes, but I like to discuss it as one, infinite Universe for simplicity. Though, an infinite Universe could (technically) expand. Infinity plus one is still infinity. So it's difficult to put it to use at all but I still find it fascinating.

I've actually watched some really interesting TED talks about the possibility of other universes, and they are so fascinating! although most of the physics goes straight over my head!

The only infinity is in mathematics. We have to have infinity in order to describe certain number sets, do calculus, etc...

However, in the real world, infinity is next to useless as a concept. We know the universe is finite, we even know that we have 10^89 objects in the universe (mostly photons), etc...

Infiniti is thus nothing more than a concept needed to do mathematics.

if the universe is infinite, how is it expanding? is infinite growing larger?

an infinite in science usually means something is very wrong with the math or the data. the only infinite that persists are singularities, and that's probably because the laws of physics fuse and/or fall apart in there and we simply have no idea what is going on.

This is one of my favorite topics to talk about. What do you think about infinity, what do you think it means? Do you think the Universe is infinite? Do you think there are an infinite number of Universes? If so, what do you think that means.

I think it's possible that there could be an infinite number of Universes, but I like to entertain the thought that the Universe is infinitely large, for simplicity.

I think that if the Universe were infinite then any event possible that follows the laws of physics is happening right now, all the time, infinitely. Right now you (the reader) and I are partners in a conspiracy to murder Justin Timberlake, and that conspiracy is happening an infinite number of times with an infinite number of different couples and outcomes. All the time in too many places to fathom.

I never claimed there wasn't..... But it's irrelevant. My argument is that our understanding of the universe is such that everything within it is finite. So as far as our universes is concerned, infinity is just a concept with no real world application.

Since we don't know what if anything exists outside of our universe means we cannot know if there is or isn't a real infinity. However, this uncertainty also means that we have, as of yet, no practical concept which requires infinity to be real.

In my first statement I said that I think there's an infinite number of Universes, but I like to discuss it as one, infinite Universe for simplicity. Though, an infinite Universe could (technically) expand. Infinity plus one is still infinity. So it's difficult to put it to use at all but I still find it fascinating.

I've actually watched some really interesting TED talks about the possibility of other universes, and they are so fascinating! although most of the physics goes straight over my head!

why do you keep asking that when Noone made that claim?

how do you know there's nothing beyond the universe

The only infinity is in mathematics. We have to have infinity in order to describe certain number sets, do calculus, etc...

However, in the real world, infinity is next to useless as a concept. We know the universe is finite, we even know that we have 10^89 objects in the universe (mostly photons), etc...

Infiniti is thus nothing more than a concept needed to do mathematics.

I never said there was nothing...

infinity means everything has an equal probability, as there are infinite possibilities ask with an infinitesimal chance

you can't possibly prove that there's nothing beyond the universe

if the universe is infinite, how is it expanding? is infinite growing larger?

an infinite in science usually means something is very wrong with the math or the data. the only infinite that persists are singularities, and that's probably because the laws of physics fuse and/or fall apart in there and we simply have no idea what is going on.

Also, when does the number zero become a different number? When does it become the number one?

A hint, it doesn't.

This is one of my favorite topics to talk about. What do you think about infinity, what do you think it means? Do you think the Universe is infinite? Do you think there are an infinite number of Universes? If so, what do you think that means.

I think it's possible that there could be an infinite number of Universes, but I like to entertain the thought that the Universe is infinitely large, for simplicity.

I think that if the Universe were infinite then any event possible that follows the laws of physics is happening right now, all the time, infinitely. Right now you (the reader) and I are partners in a conspiracy to murder Justin Timberlake, and that conspiracy is happening an infinite number of times with an infinite number of different couples and outcomes. All the time in too many places to fathom.

What do you think?

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