The debate "Lets be real black people in America are in that situation because they put themselves there" was started by
May 16, 2017, 3:00 pm.
10 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 14 people are on the disagree side.
People are starting to choose their side.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
thereal posted 6 arguments, PsychDave posted 3 arguments to the agreers part.
Nemiroff posted 3 arguments, PsychDave posted 3 arguments to the disagreers part.
thereal, The13yearoldconservative, AGustafson, tniromin and 6 visitors agree.
makson, PsychDave, M3phisto, Nemiroff, MrLuke and 9 visitors disagree.
I asked you to provide evidence to back up your racism, and to defend how it was not racism. As yet, you have demonstrated that you yourself are racist and nothing else.
stereotypes are not made by people isolated in their ghettos and barely interact with most white communities. stereotypes are made by Hollywood and other media that broadcast their perspective across the nation into every household.
psychdave, you made no arguments whatsoever in your previous post so what am i meant to respond to? if you could use your brain and formulate an argument rather than being a stupid shit and whining like a bitch, i would actually have something to respond to.
Regarding the white men with criminal records, the reason for that is because blacks have created that stereotype for themselves by their actions as a community. thats nobody elses fault but their own.
White men with a criminal record are more likely to be hired than black men with a clean record.
If you can have never done anything wrong and still be essentially unhirable, you have not put yourself there.
Again you cry and whine, but fail to provide anything to support your argument. Read the description of racism I provided, and try to defend your post. Not by trying to normalize beastiality or with strawman arguments. Actually defend your position.
PsychDave, i know youre an underdeveloped ignorant goatf***er but are you going to actually present any logical arguments or are you going to continue to cry like an emotional little bitch?
It is not racism, it is a basic fact that all over the world, blacks are the laziest and most dominant street criminal factions in society. You have no argument against that so dont waste what little energy you have on goatfornicating over it.
Regarding morals...well, youre an atheist lmfao so thats hypocritical in on itself.
and what do you suggest black people do?
get a job? well they try that but no matter the resume, as soon as they see an ethnic name the chances of a call back drop.
speaking of jobs, if the only options available are low wage work with long commutes and back breaking labor that barely pays the basic necessities... that's not worth it!
study hard for a better job? easier said then done with underfunded, over crowded schools with out of date textbooks, trailers for classrooms, and teachers that treat it more like a prison than a school. Oh yeah, recipe for success.
poor white trailer communities have equivalent crime, while newly screwed Appalachia communities aren't committing crimes cause they are busy committing suicide in mass numbers. suicide is not sustainable, another generation or 2 of being screwed will shift that anger from themselves to the system and crime will boom cause when people have no future they take what they can today.
that's what happens when your situation is screwed from birth to prison.
If there's lots of empirical evidence, it shouldn't be too much to ask for you to provide some.
Yes, I have agreed that there are lots of black people in prison. What I disagree with is your theory that this is because they are a race of lazy super predators.
One of the definitions of racism is:
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races
In light of that, you comment about black people being lazy is racist. Your comment about them being super predators is racist.
At no point did I say most crime is due to mental illness. I said there were causes for crime, and provided a few examples. Learn to read the whole sent and, don't just stop when you get to a hard word.
Finally, I strongly doubt you have never heard the moral dilemma about whether it is wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family. It has been asked throughout history, as well as in pop culture references like the Simpsons. Most of the time, the moral decision reached is to steal to feed your family, but to steal nothing you don't need. Your ignorance of morals and moral lessons reflects yourself, not anyone else.
Well why dont you get your stupid head out of your dumb liberal a** and you will see plenty of empirical evidence of super predators in society. In fact go into any max security prison, you will find plenty of which most will be black. Also, racism is based on prejudices therefore if it is a fact it isnt racism. we are discussing whether or not it is true so for you to use the racism card under the preconceived notion that you are right shows what a half wit you are.
Most crime is not committed due to mental illness, unfortunately this utopia you live in where all criminals are really victims doesnt exist. maybe you need something to happen to you before you can open your eyes to reality. Lmao ive never heard anybody say that stealing a loaf of bread is acceptable, that just shows you really are an immoral atheist savage.
And you base your racist "super predator" argument on what? Could you provide some evidence to support your prejudices?
If someone commits a crime, there is always a reason. Sometimes it is greed, sometimes mental illness, and something extenuating circumstances. Killing is wrong, except when it isn't. Killing in self defence is generally justified. Stealing is wrong, except when it isn't. Stealing a loaf of bread to prevent someone from starving to death is generally acceptable. By neglecting why crimes are committed, you demonstrate that you don't care about reality. You just want to further your agenda.
Black people are poor because they are lazy and too busy killing each other than setting up businesses. The Asians dont do that shit thats why theyre wealthy in comparison. The same is true everywhere, not just in the USA. Even in Africa where they have a whole continent to themselves they are poor. Yet Asians work hard everywhere. in fact, last time an African leader kicked out Indians his economy collapsed. That shows how lazy blacks truly are.
Psychdave, unfortunately as with all debates, it is you who lacks intelligent thought because black people joining gangs and committing crimes isnt the "symptom", it IS the disease. There are not other issues causing them to commit 80% of murders in the US, it is the fact that they commit 80% of crimes which causes other social issues. They are super predators and need to be cleansed.
You are completely disregarding all intelligent thought on socioeconomic status. Your vast oversimplification of the situation is designed to arrive at the conclusion you want it to, and so ignores everything that would disagree.
Why do black people commit more crimes?
Why do black youth join gangs?
You are pointing to symptoms and claiming they are the disease.
Poor people commit more crimes.
Black people are disproportionately poor.
These relationships are well established. To ignore them demonstrates that you don't care about WHY things are as they are, you simply want to blame someone convenient who can't fight back.
U have no evidence. And even if u had one you would have no proof that evidence is true. And how could we know that proof is correct? Then u need another proof that will be proof of itself and past evidence. Then I will accept u.
no relation, besides red lining and Levittown
For starters,yes a lot of black families are lome parent but that is nobody elses fault but the black communities. its the black males that hit and run.
secondly, 80% of murders in the US are committed by black people thats why most prisoners in the US are black; because most of them are criminal.
thirdly, a lot of young people get involved with drugs and gangs because its the black gang members that convinces them to do so. Even a rapper like 2pac who supposedly wanted to get black people out of the ghetto turned into street trash when he had beef with biggie as opposed to trying to resolve it sensibly and set an example for black youth etc.
After all that, they still have the nerve to blame it on the whites who have bo affiliation to them.