Low IQd Individuals should be stereilized

October 6, 2018, 4:19 pm

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The debate "Low IQd Individuals should be stereilized" was started by LittleOgre on October 6, 2018, 4:19 pm. 9 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 18 people are on the disagree side. People are starting to choose their side. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

LittleOgre posted 6 arguments to the agreers part.
Nemiroff posted 2 arguments to the disagreers part.

LittleOgre, YEET and 7 visitors agree.
Brynn, TalkativePeaches, crispsandchips and 15 visitors disagree.

dont you think that would severely harm our labor force?

how will this increase the number of intelligent people? they will be a bigger %, but you won't get more people like that.

2 months, 1 week ago
Nemiroff
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I have seen no citation at all to your claim that IQ is unaffected by education.

I said there will be exceptions. smart Genes in lazy people with low IQ. I never said any such universal statement.

2 months, 1 week ago
LittleOgre
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You're assuming that those with high IQs dont have smart genes? so ur logic is if low IQd individuals get sterilized. High IQd wont have smart genes?

2 months, 1 week ago
LittleOgre
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Nirmoff thats an article not an actual study. I saw no link that connected this study. so I can take the study seriously. low IQd children. such as children who are at around 60 70 80 90. Sterilization is a quick way to increasing the IQ of a population thereofore increasing the IQ. places like africa would really benefit from this

2 months, 1 week ago
Nemiroff
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also, I said you will snuff out the genes, not the people. thus an uneducated person with smart genes will have those genes reach an end. likewise in reverse.

genetics determine your maximum potential, a potential few reach. the average intelligence of people is within the range of all normal genes, assuming they have the will and put in the work.

2 months, 1 week ago
Nemiroff
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why do you think we are advanced enough to understand genetic intelligence? have we even identified the genes responsible for intelligence? I'm very confident we are nowhere near understanding intelligence genetically.

also, what is the goal? considering our aging population are we also going to force intelligent people to procreate en mass? cause sterilizing dumb people doesnt make more smart people, and we need workers too.

finally, an IQ absolutely increases with education. so the nature vs nurture question continues.

https://www.iqtestexperts.com/iq-education.php

2 months, 1 week ago
LittleOgre
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We are already forced to do plenty of things in society. Lets not pretend this is a 100% free land.

2 months, 1 week ago
LittleOgre
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It doesn't necessarily have to be so direct

2 months, 1 week ago
LittleOgre
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You're assuming that those people will be snuffed out. As long as there is a test to test a persons ability and not just simply knowledge. Then it should be fine. An IQ test can barely be improved through studying. At the most it deviates between a couple of points. We are far advanced enough to understand genetics when it comes to intelligence.

2 months, 1 week ago
Nemiroff
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there is also the logic case of why he believes intelligence is hereditary. or why it is the virtue of choice as opposed to morality, physical strength, creativity, etc.

one of the biggest debate between top experts in many biology fields is the concept of nature vs nurture. how much of our achievements is due to DNA or due to effort and opportunity. a smart person may choose to drop school, or a dumb person may study hard extra hours. you might be snuffing out the smart genes cause 1 or 2 generations didnt study hard or something.

2 months, 1 week ago
lachlan2
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Yes those advocating the use of force, violating the non-aggression principle carry the burden of proof. Nobody has to prove why they shouldn't be steralized.

2 months, 1 week ago

wouldn't the person suggesting a huge and likely brutal change to the norm be the one responsible for explaining why?

2 months, 1 week ago

Why shouldn't low IQd individuals be sterilized?

2 months, 1 week ago
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