Making a reasonable law is one thing making others to comply to it is a whole different ball game

April 4, 2018, 4:12 pm

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The debate "Making a reasonable law is one thing making others to comply to it is a whole different ball game" was started by Matthew354 on April 4, 2018, 4:12 pm. 6 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 0 person is on the disagree side. There needs to be more votes to see what the common perception is. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

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Matthew354
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The SMG-22 is a full auto airgun that is much more efficient than a firearm, designed to kill and very silent in a crowd of people. Features a 100 round belt to shoot and ammo is much simpler and cheaper than ammo from a pistol or an AR15, despite it being a lot more accessible and cheaper in pretty much all states. Just because it's available and more efficient than conventional alternatives, doesn't make it the source of violence.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Matthew354
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I'm not saying it isn't fact there are about 10K people die every year, there are tons of other unregulated weapons other than firearms that were designed to kill the makes the regulation of firearms ridiculous.

Case and point: full auto airguns, bows and arrows, spears.

Too many options that are arguably just as effective as a firearm where the banning of firearms would make others move to other means, making gun control a goose chase and a witch hunt.

Just because someone uses a firearm doesn't make that inclined to kill someone, not anymore than someone picking up a circumcision knife and having the urge to circumcise foreskin.

5 months, 2 weeks ago

you are comparing accidents to homicides. those are very different things. one is an intentional killing of another human being with a tool specifically designed for killing other human beings. the other is accident committed with a tool designed for transportation of goods and people.

in 2013 there were 11,208 homicides committed with a gun in the US. so when I say over 10,000 people per year are murdered with guns, that is not an exaggeration. it is a well documented fact.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Matthew354
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Yes I can say that about cars, and I told you this before, there are an average of about 88,000 deaths by car every year. Also, you are over exaggerating how much people die from firearms, especially since more about than 99.99988 % of all the 220 million gun owners use their firearms responsibly, where the rest if the 0.00015% used it to commit murder or gun related crimes.

5 months, 2 weeks ago

you find me examples of over a dozen people being murdered with gasoline. i guarantee you I can find many, many more examples of that many people being murdered by guns. what is your obsession with deflecting?

people use guns to murder over 10,000 people every year in America. you cannot say that about cars or gasoline. stop deflecting.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Matthew354
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Guns can be used for wonderful things like using it as a talking point for a productive conversation with friends that are also fellow gun owners, and shooting paper targets on the gun range. What matters is that both guns and cars can equally be used with personal responsibility despite their main purpose.

If a gun is stripped from me, I can still kill multiple people just as efficiently with gasoline despite their main purpose to fuel cars by lighting it up on multiple bottles, but murdering people is illegal is it not? I can make the weapon, but I won't murder anyone.

5 months, 2 weeks ago

cars are a tool that can be used for many wonderful things. that vast majority of automotive deaths are accidents. once we start having common self driving cars that should pretty much end though.

guns are tools for killing things. other than hunting, which can easily be accomplished with significantly less dangerous weapons, they serve no purpose whatsoever besides killing people. the two things are completely unrelated.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Matthew354
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I would rather make the private ownership of cars banned than a gun, with an average of 88,000 deaths per year compared to an average of 33,000 deaths per year by firearm, that seems like a reasonable restriction and forcing everyone on public transportation.

5 months, 2 weeks ago

no one is saying that getting control of your gun problems would be quick or easy. that doesn't mean you shouldn't work on it.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Najam1
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Reportedly, a man named Elijah never complied with the law called death.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Najam1
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Yes.
Allah's law called death applies to everyone and certainly is not owned by the false god police.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Matthew354
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That's the thing, many laws are passed and many cases people don't follow it because their voices were not heard. If the Australian gun buy back law that was passed in 1996 had less than 20% compliance, according to the Sporting Shooters Association of Australia, I can't imagine how much non compliance the United States has in comparison if the US adopt other gun control laws in other "developed" countries.

5 months, 2 weeks ago

I'm not sure I understand. laws apply to everyone. by definition everyone would have to follow it. why would you make a law and then not make people follow it?

5 months, 2 weeks ago
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