The debate "Market Talk" was started by
March 10, 2017, 9:10 am.
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human, Nemiroff and 8 visitors agree.
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I'm hardly a marker expert. but it looks like the market was running up on very little basis lately. it is correcting itself. it should calm down. how long that will take is more of an open question. but since all the economic indicators are pretty positive (other than trump picking trade wars) i doubt we are looking at a bear market.
and the fall continues...
any takes on the situation?
some say its because the interests and wages may go up in an ever stronger economy, which makes sense for the short term, but markets usually take s super long term view.
others brought up fear regarding the growing potential deficit of the government and something about bonds (beyond my expertise if some wants to chime in).
will this just be a correction?
will it be a bear market?
how low will it go?
how fast will it rebound?
let's hear some thoughts besides mine lol.
also I'm in Kodak which went nuts when it launched a crypto currency. it's my current stupid gamble, just riding it's up and down insanity hoping I don't get burned by it.
let's see if there any more market fellas to talk to.
note: not a pro, and I'm experimenting with things most pros say don't do, like investing in individual companies, flipping stocks short term (can't day trade unless your playing with over 25,000), and sometimes playing with volatile stocks. but I like to hear others opinions to improve my game.
so far 1 year in, I am net neutral with 2 huge successful recoveries from stupid gambles (aaoi, no not the full loss, was hoping to ride the recovery but it just kept dropping).
my big bet. Alibaba. singles day is huge and it didn't seem to show in its price. it's probably gonna make a killing in earnings.
Intel was a nice small bet I made right before its earnings and it payed off. I think amd will be similar with its improved cards and chips and better black Friday sales. I think the same about nvidia but only because they are all in similar markets. my feeling was always that amd will make the most this time but it grew fast after the Intel security issue I'm hoping it drops a bit before I buy it again (sold about half to buy Intel a few days ago).
long term I think Alibaba is going to be amazing. may even beat Amazon in the long term. I'm also looking for an entry point into tesla. I hope they drop down to 300 with maturing bonds and disappointing earnings. the sky is the limit long term with this company imo.
Amazon and Google will keep growing of course, but slow compared to what I want, and I think Apple and Facebook may be in for a decline (I'm biased against both of those)
Also, if anyone has a favorite cryptocurreny... why? what's the difference? can't wait to hear.
I'm currently investing in bigger companies like apple, Google, Amazon, etc... that don't see a lot of up or down swing in recessions and where I'll be able to recoup even if they loose value in the short term by playing the long game and simply holding on to shares.
I also like bonds for turbulent times as you'll get fixed rates of return rather than market fluctuations. while these returns aren't very high, they are still net positives which is good enough for me during market downturns.
essentially I try to eliminate losses in the long term by minimizing gains in the short term.
where do you plan on putting them. I've so far found gold and silver etfs good places to go when Markets aren't doing so well.
the stock markets have reacted to Trump's rhetoric not his actions. He hasn't actually done anything to change the course of business at all. There are definitely growing doubts that he will be able to push any of his propositions through the legislative branch (his healthcare bill is the first real sign). The markets are reacting to the rollbacks of regulations and tax reductions he's promised. if he fails to deliver on these promises in a big way, we could very well see a massive selloff.
The jobs numbers that came out this week also signalled to the reserve that a hike in interest rates is due and justified. Analysts are predicting that a rate hike is highly probable (some analysts put it at 90% likelihood). A rate hike, according to many analysts will likely trigger a selloff. although they are not expecting this selloff to occur until next year.
I'm definitely keeping my eye on my 401k and will likely move my stocks away from the S&P and DOW pretty soon here.
Since i dont know your looks( i'm curious to know though), i have made the face of 'imaginary nemiroff' in my mind. One day, the same looking person appeared on France24. LOL.
really bigpapa??? please dont lie....please swear to god that you didnt lie....
did you appear on a talkshow for the France 24 news channel?
also, trends are starting to point down for a few days now? is the bull market over? is the bubble about to pop? cause all the billionaire stock gurus have been saying there's still plenty of room to grow.
I'm personally expecting a bear market going forward... but I've been wrong about that for over a year now.
I'm currently going against all advice and playing around with semi day trading (under 25k so real day trading is prohibited for me). I'm currently holding banks expecting them to do better than the rest if as many expect the Fed raises rates. at which point I'm jumping ship to the defense stocks because... Trump, and I'm hoping European armies use the same companies and up their defense nato spending as well.
been experimenting with stocks for about a week now. my first foray into the markets.
wanted to see if anyone else wanted to discuss, winners and losers, booms and bubbles, and various strategies.