The debate "Martin Luther's movement or BLM" was started by
February 28, 2017, 8:31 am.
6 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 2 people are on the disagree side.
There needs to be more votes to see what the common perception is.
It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.
Blu_Ray posted 9 arguments, Yanksxx21 posted 5 arguments to the agreers part.
Nemiroff posted 2 arguments to the disagreers part.
Blu_Ray, Yanksxx21, Ematio, human and 2 visitors agree.
UnderdogMike and 1 visitor disagree.
I pass out. Got homework to do.
you haven't said it, but your not the only person in this discussion.
1 have seen 1 instance of a white person being killed unjustly by the police, and it was determined to have been a personal conflict between the 2. i could find no other instances. yet black people had repeated instances which only got attention because of the cellphone footage proving it. how many decades have these same complaints been dismissed as criminals trying to get out of consequences?
and the biggest issue is not individuals killing them, but the failure of the justice department to even take them to trial most of the time. most of the protests didn't happen after the death, but after the acquittal without trial.
big papa, when did i even say we must let these killer cops go unpunished? Killing of innocent blacks is unjustified. infact killing of any innocent man/ woman is unjustified. All i was saying , fatal innocent police shootings are a general problem irrespective of race and sex and gender. So BLM shouting and throwing stones is unjustified.
well if your data doesn't differentiate between justified and unjustified killings... how is it in any way useful to this discussion?
and no matter how many or how few of them happen, shouldnt the individual officers who commit killings that are proven to be unjustified AND are proven by direct video to have lied, manipulated the scene, or framed the victim after killing them be prosecuted and punished?
big papa, i've provided you the source which claims both ( innocent + criminals). Police dont keep records of innocent shootings seperately.
I'm not talking about justified police killings. if someone threatens an officers life, WE ALL AGREE THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
if your not providing evidence of police killing of unarmed, non threatening people being killed, then all your providing is a red herring.
blacks arent the one to die. everybody dies due to fatal police shootings. I dont mean the cops should pull up their guns and should start shooting blacks. all i mean is, BLM is bullshit. More hispanics and whites get killed due to fatal police shootings.......
btw, he defended unjust black victims at police memorials, and he defended good cops in black victim speeches. he did both in all speeches.
once again, the only thing divisive about Obama are your views of him.
blm wants all cops dead?
what propaganda are you smoking?
have you ever even read a single blm statement from a blm source?
If your only source of blm information is from anti blm sites, then I'm sorry, you are a sheep.
if you insist on judging people, judge them based on their own direct words and actions, not a secondary retelling of those actions.
have you not read the Washington times story where he was at a police memorial in dallas and defended black lives matter at the memorial where BLM protest want all cops dead who have no respect of property and no peace at all yeah he was a great president lol
when a person got killed unjustly by officers he held a press conference asap and addressed it.
when an officer died in the line of duty he had a press conference asap and addressed it.
the only thing divisive about him was his skin color not his actions.
have you ever actually listened to him or are you just quoting propaganda?
All lives Matter Amen. HLM BLM ALM NLM WLM ILM
what i meant is that he did nothing to help. he could have backed up the police but no he jusy stood by and watch another civil war happen.
err their team losses, what a tragic injustice, they must let out their rage...
are black people the only people who act like that? burning stores? flipping cars?
there are many examples of white people rioting. unfortunately it's usually not in protest of a wrongful death, but after a sports game when their team wins. savages.
the selective information, limited perspective, and double standard of many in this nation would make any famous figure ashamed for this country as a whole.
it's a lot easier to judge people when you don't even do the research or don't even bother to honestly put yourself in their shoes.
Psycdave since i have got to study now, i'll keep the argument short.
Hispanics are targeted by police too. Do they protest? Like Hispanics Lives Matter? Have you ever heard HLM? BLM is extremely self centred group.
Obama is not related to BLM
MLK would be ashamed if he saw black people today. its disgusting what they're doing ruining stores burning down buildings destroying cars. you are making this country divided and you can blame Obama for that
That's a lot of posts about your opinion, but nothing backing them up.
Yes, black people commit statistically more crimes. Why do you suppose that is? Could it be that they are also statistically poorer, and poor people commit more crimes?
As to your argument regarding the views of the larger community, could you demonstrate that to be something other than your opinion?
As to them not attacking the public, when a child is shot for answering the door, they are hardly attacking the public. When a man is strangled to death for selling cigarettes, he was hardly attacking the public. When a rights activist is arrested for failing to signal while driving and dies in police custody, where was the attack on the public? When a man's car breaks down and police shoot him dead on camera, how was he attacking the public?
I am in no way saying police should never use deadly force. There are absolutely times when it is appropriate. But there are many examples of police killing black people and facing no consequences. Can you honestly fault people for feeling that this is a message that their lives do not matter?
So if they want to stop police killings then MABYE they should stop attacking the public and committing crime.
If this was the entire African American community saying and advocating against this institulilized racism then yes , fortunately the majority of African Americans see the stupidity and evil that is BLM and stay far away, and ironically they are attacked when they are logical.
So the racism here is towards every other race other than black , blaming them to justify their issues that they caused by themselves. No one told them to start gangs and commit homicide, no one told them to flunk school , no one told them to never get off of welfare.
12% of the population is responsible for 50% of the crime , and not innocent crimes like having a blunt or stealing a candy bar
One was fighting oppression by the government, the other is fighting to stop the killings by the police. An injustice carried out by those in a position of power who are not being held accountable for abusing people based on race.
Do you not see similarities?
Dont you see any difference between MLK and BLM.......
what racist thing did they do? besides declaring that their lives matter.... seriously?
So fighting oppression and violence used to be good but now it's racist?
I say, MLK had a great view and morale. But BLM is just racist.