Men are the leader of home

March 3, 2015, 3:41 pm

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The debate "Men are the leader of home" was started by MOSKAU on March 3, 2015, 3:41 pm. By the way, MOSKAU is disagreeing with this statement. 28 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 41 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

Kirito posted 3 arguments to the agreers part.
YonYonsonsSonJon posted 1 argument, PsychDave posted 1 argument, Noel posted 1 argument, yg posted 1 argument, I_Voyager posted 2 arguments to the disagreers part.

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I_Voyager
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Punishment, or consequence. Punishments emerge from defying an authority; consequences are what results from the nature of an event, and we can all be victims of the consequences of nature. The nature of power is vastly more than any individual human can have; by comparison the difference in power held between a man and a woman is little. Men have the potential to be stronger, but I'm not convinced tougher. I think it's probably true women can endure more pain and hardship than men. It's been demonstrated that women do have higher pain tolerance than men. Like I said though - the power of reality is so great than these meager differences which are only relevant to the struggle of survival in the wilderness or in a hostile land are irrelevant to today's society, which prizes workplace endurance over physical endurance. Women have been demonstrated to have slightly better multitasking skills and in my experience can do a great many jobs better than men.

The stronger person might have to lift the heavier object, but I'm not sure that validates the person being the 'head of the household'. The strongest fighter is seldom the army's general, is seldom the nation's king. The man may be the strongest person in the household, but that doesn't mean he's more prepared to take, endure or decide in a technological, political and social world. Wisdom, intelligence and endurance. And even then, when it comes to fighting, our toughness is a bigger factor than strength. Women can be strong enough to shoot again and if so, kill an enemy with just as good a skill as men. With a slightly improved color recognition system they might more often point out a camo'd target, and with greater multi-tasking skills they might be the quicker shot too. And they'll probably take a bullet better too, and recover emotionally after better.

If we go back to surviving in the wilderness, or some billionaire's demented MMORPG of doom, maybe the men have to lead the charge. But I don't think I'll ever be able to treat that as "being the leader" "Being the head". The wise general commands his troops from the rear. If that's the woman's place, then that's the woman's role - the leader.

4 years, 5 months ago

Correct me if I am wrong, which you will probably say I am; I understand you are telling me that the woman should be able to make the decission to take a punishment or (insert whatever here). But generally the man is the stronger built, has the hard working job, ect. (even in same-sex marriges there is one who is more femine and one who is more masculine than the other) So thus the man of the household should be up front to handle a problem with his spouce's help. They should speak with one voice, and work together to reach a common goal. Behind every strong man there is a smart woman there to guide him. Towards the end of your statement you stated that if the woman took a fatal blow she would die; I never said anything about death but I eventually understood that you were trying to make the point of a woman acting on her own and choosing for herself. (Again another good SAO reference... Man I love that series!!!!)

4 years, 5 months ago

I think life is more fluid than that. Nor do I generally believe chivalry is what a man does for a woman, but even so, what the woman does for the man (or in cases of same sex couple what one just does for the other). When the man is low, the woman is high, and when the woman is low thean is high, and when both high they're there together, whatever may come. But it brings women down to say they're too weak to be the one who takes that fatal blow and saves her lover by dying for him.

4 years, 5 months ago

You may have misinterpreted, which is understandable because I did not explain my thought far enough. My thought is much the same as yours where both man and woman are equal; but I believe the man should be in front of the family (not necessarily leading the charge) because if the couple make a bad decision, which may happen, the man will be in front to take the blame. Just a show of hands... sorry yea or nay how many of you have a girlfriend or family? (Noel good SAO reference :) but if you notice they both make decisions together but he is the one out in front most of the time because he doesn't want to loose her.)

4 years, 5 months ago

I totally agree. no where is it written that only a particular gender is better or superior than the other. the moment I think of the term of home, I just not visualise only the man or only the woman but both.

4 years, 5 months ago

kirito,
Asuna is just as good player as Kirito, and they both manage to have a balanced family without having one taking over the other....

4 years, 5 months ago

Kirito, your argument reads like you are saying that unless the man is weak, the woman should be subservient and not try to usurp his authority. If I'm misreading I apologize, but if not why are you disregarding the possibility of a relationship based on mutual respect as equals?

The man should not run the household, and neither should the woman. A family is not a military unit, or a ship, to need one commander. It should be two equals working together. There will always be dominant personalities, and there will always be situations that one partner feels more strongly than the other, but that is part of finding the balance in a relationship.

4 years, 5 months ago

Yes but if the man is capible of leading the woman should not take over; she should help guide his decisions though.

4 years, 5 months ago

Traditionally, men have been expected to be the "leader" of a household due to the fact that they were often the primary breadwinner. This idea is dated. Women are just as capable of providing for a family as a man is.

The ability to lead well is not a gender-related characteristic. This is something is comes down to preference.

4 years, 5 months ago
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