Multiverse theory

May 1, 2017, 4:50 pm

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The debate "Multiverse theory" was started by neveralone on May 1, 2017, 4:50 pm. 6 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 6 people are on the disagree side. People are starting to choose their side. There is a tie in this debate, post your arguments, call some reinforcements and break this tie.

neveralone posted 4 arguments to the agreers part.
makson posted 1 argument, Nemiroff posted 6 arguments to the disagreers part.

neveralone, invincible_01, bernie2020 and 3 visitors agree.
makson, TimRSA, MrLuke and 3 visitors disagree.

For the strings theory and my 5th dimension hypothesis. Strings theory has been proven its true. I'm just asking questions and try to logically figure it out but i think its a possibility that the 5th dimension could be universes. But its also possible that i'm completely wrong. :p

1 year, 11 months ago
M3phisto
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Haha True about jet lee.

We now live around 100 years and all the souls will eventually reunite. But since the soul gets more and more powerful with each death does that mean that the last one to die will have the complete soul? If then, that gives him alot of power to change things and maybe avoid death.

I was talking about adn to show how a microscopical change can have huge impacts. Its a rearrangement of matter that has an entirely different outcome. In other universes, its this rearrangement that happens. Which implies that there are many universes where im not even born, or born with huge handicaps or alot of other things. So there are a finite number of me. But its all matter that has different forms. Yet when you decompose all my selves to basic elements, you'll probably see that i'm made of the same components, but built differently. This theory explains that its not new matter that is created with each universe. Only a different construction of the same matter.

1 year, 11 months ago
Nemiroff
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I can answer your questions with some hypothetical logic, but the whole example was meant to be silly... it's an action flick, and I doubt the writing staff put that much thought into the philosophical implications lol.

your soul will rejoin the remaining parts of your soul, and remain in that body much like if your still alive. within a few years all of yous should be dead, we only live 100 years, not much when compared with eternity. and yes, you are a fraction of you, equivalent to anyone else, so don't feel too bad.

1 year, 11 months ago

Interesting. I've seen that movie with jet lee but its too inconsistant. It basically says that until all our universe self are dead, the soul is still imprisoned in a body of matter. What happens to u when u die then? Ur soul is infinitely scattered in all universes to reinforce other self souls? What about my soul of now? Is it only a fraction of my whole soul? What happens to ur individual soul? Looks like it gets destroyed with this theory.

1 year, 11 months ago

these seemed relevant and pretty interesting.

1 year, 11 months ago

String Theory Says We Have At Least 10 Dimensions, But That's Not The Weirdest Thing About It | @curiositydotcom

https://curiosity.com/topics/string-theory-says-we-have-at-least-10-dimensions-but-thats-not-the-weirdest-thing-about-it-curiosity?utm_source=androidapp

1 year, 11 months ago

The Many-Worlds Interpretation Says There Are Infinite Timelines And Infinite Yous | @curiositydotcom

https://curiosity.com/topics/the-many-worlds-interpretation-says-there-are-infinite-timelines-and-infinite-yous-curiosity?utm_source=androidapp

1 year, 11 months ago
Nemiroff
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adn?

1 year, 11 months ago
Nemiroff
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if you believe the scientific genius of jet li (or whoever wrote the story behind the one) all parallel you s share the same soul, and as they die, the remaining you s increase in soul potency and strength.

1 year, 11 months ago

Btw it was asked about the souls. I dont know if they exist but i guess every human would have an individual soul with their paradise or hell to go to. (if you speak in christan terms)

1 year, 11 months ago

My guess would be that its not new matter that is created. It is more like a different arrangement of matter in the universe. (Like our adn, one single change in its infinity of links and the adn becomes something entirely different)

But i'm not an expert on that theory though. I've heard about the strings theory, a documentary with morgan's freeman narration ^^' very interesting but really hard to grasp. Its similar to this one in some ways.

1 year, 11 months ago

On this theory, time would be like going up and down on one branch of a tree. Universe traveling whould be like going from one branch to another at a fixed point of present.

1 year, 11 months ago
neveralone
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that's kind of awesome.

1 year, 11 months ago

we feel the 4th dimension as time but it has an actual physical direction we cannot perceive, much like the ancients were scared of walking off the edge of the earth but never considered launching straight up!

have you ever heard of a hypercube?
much like you can unravel a 3d cube into 2 dimensions (it looks like 4 squares in the shape of a cross, kinda like a build it yourself box) a 4d hypercube is illustrated as 4 cubes in the shape of a cross, that needs to be folded in on itself in the 4th dimension.

I'm not even sure about time being the 4th dimension. I think that was a bad guess. not sure if it was revisited.

however dimensions were mathematically proven using string theory (over 10 year old info) and it's most likely either 11 or 31 dimensions total.

1 year, 11 months ago

of course as 3 dimensional beings we can comprehend fewer dimensions. it is the higher dimensions that are closed to us.

the whole splitting universes from choices and changes makes sense when you think about time travel, but not so much when you think about the actual universe. how exactly would a change or decision point create a physical second universe?! that makes no sense to me.

1 year, 11 months ago
M3phisto
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**not atoms but particles**

1 year, 11 months ago

Those dimensions cant just be experienced. Btw, close one eye and you only see in 2D. You have two eyes so you can see in 3D. Because of our intelligence we understood time passes. There are some atoms that are belived to travel time. Scientists concluded time is the 4th dimension. If we prove that matter has come from another universe then we have our 5th dimension. But this is all about proof and reality. There may be like 20 or 30 dimensions and we cant even realise that this would be possible.

1 year, 11 months ago

From the beginning that three kept exponentially growing to infinite or unknown proportions. It has infinite branches. Imagine now if a creature would be able to travel from one branche to another? What if matter CAN travel trough branches? It would be like a new dimension because you wont be able to travel only back and forth or just in time, but you could switch universes. Yet, its a theory and dont know how it would be possible... but i'm pretty sure it would be really complicated.

1 year, 11 months ago
M3phisto
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1. Dot
2. Line
3. Space
4. Time
5. Universe

This is possible. There is a theory of multiverses which states that there are an infinite number of parallel universes which all began from one initial point. It grows like a tree. The initial universe was the base then at each second when different things would happen, a new branch (universe) whould appear. I belive that a meteorite traveling trough space at the origin point would be the same in all universes. But one small explosion or chemical reaction that has like 60% chances of happening provokes the creation of two new branches (one where it explodes one where it doesnt).

1 year, 11 months ago

dimensions have nothing to do with universes. dimensions are directions. all of our dimensions are in our universe. they are literally all around you in a direction your brain is incapable of processing.

just imagine 2 dimensional beings looking at a sphere. all they will see is a growing and then shrinking halo because all they can process is a thin, 2d cross section. the 3rd dimension isn't another world, just the concept of width that is always all around them, just outside of their perception.

sorry guys, those sci fi movies and comic books got this concept entirely wrong.

1 year, 11 months ago

Did God create all universes or there is every God for every universe?

1 year, 11 months ago

Multiverse theory is beyond comprehension for now. Some claim it might be the 5th dimension yet nothing is known yet. It could be a 5th dimension though. Since dimensions are about space and time, 1. Dot 2. Line 3. 3D space 4. Time and why not 5. Universe. By the way, the show rick and morty is pretty cool and it shows how it would be if people were able to travel trough universes (Rick and his portal gun)

1 year, 11 months ago
neveralone
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true

1 year, 11 months ago

Multiverse theory is a sham for atheists to believe in so they get comfort in the helief that they dont have to answer for their crimes.

1 year, 11 months ago
Nemiroff
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I can believe in free will with only one choice.

on the other hand, if your destined to make every choice in some universe, you were predestined to make the choice you made. that is counter to free will.

1 year, 11 months ago
neveralone
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I think u would almost have to believe it to believe in free will. though I could be wrong.

1 year, 11 months ago

it is whatever you want it to be. multiverse theory is not science, it's a mental game of speculation closer to philosophy or religion.

1 year, 11 months ago

alright I got two different proposals
1) if u follow just one other u, after so many choices could u even call that other u u?
2) now soul wise would that same person have the same soul?

1 year, 11 months ago
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