The debate "Muslims are terrorists." was started by
November 16, 2015, 1:44 pm.
By the way, Nury is disagreeing with this statement.
13 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 70 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
AstroSpace posted 6 arguments, benhawthorne posted 1 argument, bintang posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
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AstroSpace, bintang, DannyknowsItAll, benhawthorne, liberalssuck and 8 visitors agree.
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I agree. I have voted and repeatedly argued that not all, nor even most Muslims are terrorists. Denying that they are Muslim does not make it so however. They identify themselves as Muslim, therefore they are. They have changed the rules to permit their actions, but that is no different than any other sect splitting off of a religion. Protestants split from Catholicism because they disagreed with a number of church practices, including the selling of absolutions. The Anglican church split off because the King of England wanted a divorce and the Pope said no (vast oversimplification). There have been many splits due to political and dogmatic reasons, but all of these sects are Christian.
what is the purpose of believing a religion when you do not know your religions. and saying all muslims are terrorist is completely wrong. you cant judge majority by minority. if minority of Christians are terrorist you cant say that all christians are terrorist.
While I agree that they are violating the rules of Islam, saying that other Muslims do not accept them as Muslim doesn't mean a whole lot since Catholics could claim that protestants are not Christian since they don't follow the same rules.
the terrorist who call themself muslims arn't muslims thats what we muslims consider. they are just spoiling the image of a muslims.
The old testament is still part of the Christian scripture and in it God not only commands David, Saul and Joshua to go to war, he gives them instructions for how to wage the battles. In some cases he commands the Israelites to kill every man woman, child, and all animals belonging to their enemy. Christians don't tend to use this as justification anymore, but if a group committed genocide based on God's instructions it would have a basis in scripture.
I'm aware of Christianities bloody history, however I don't think that those doctrines stemmed from the religion itself during those times. Islam is unique among the three monotheistic religions in that belligerence is engrained into its scriptures. Muhammad himself was said to have fought during the Muslim Conquest and he was the founder of the religion. That's the equivalent of Jesus conquering the Romans instead of being killed by them.
So yes. There is a difference between the two that must be taken into account. Now that's not to say that all Muslims are terrorists, or even the majority, but you can see why those that are find justification in their concept of Jihad.
The main reason why we affix terorism with Muslims is the current social stigma. If you continue to believe this, then you are undeniably being neglectful of terrorist of other origin. It's also dangerous because you now generalize the entirety of terrorism to Muslims, which is wrong by facts and by principle.
They really are not always. You may want to actually look back rather than just using it as a rhetorical device.
we look back what is terrorist? terrorist were always identified by muslim.
Again with the overgeneralizations!! Do not say Muslims are terrorists because by then you ultimately condemn all Muslims to be brutally armed to the teeth with unlimited aggression and violence to be spread to the world -_-
if the west knew anything there would be kurdistan, Sunnistan, Shi'itistan,
Again. you don't know your history. in the middle ages the Ottoman empire controlled all of the middle East and more advanced and prosperous that Europe. up to around the 1600s or 1700s they were more prosperous successful than Europe. around then the empire declined but they were certainly not in ruins. it wasn't until after 1919 when the West carved up the middle East and tried to rule it that things went badly. The west has a significant share of the blame for the way things are there.
What? really are you sure. they have always been in ruins?
Haha yes but you guys are forgetting one thing. Europe, run by Christians, has seen some hard times, but it has picked itself up time and time again. Middle East? Nope, they've always been in ruins.
Christians have done terrible things. In the crusades they killed every single person they could find who wasn't Christians
The history of Christianity is just as bloody if not more so. so trying to paint a historical argument isn't going to work.
I don't know enough about Islam, so the core values of the religion are completely lost on me. That said, the history of Islam is steeped in violence. In fact, there is a period of time called "The Muslim Conquest" where the Islamic Armies conquered the Middle East, North Africa, and parts of Spain within a century or two. That fact of history does speak to some of the belligerent aspects of the religion. I suppose that's doubly true since the very founder of the religion, Muhammad, was supposed to have speared-headed many of the battles. Sadly, you can't really say that about Christianity or Judaism because neither of them depict their central figures in that light...Well, Christianity doesn't. I don't know anything about Judaism.
That's not to say that there aren't peaceful denominations of Islam, but the history of violence engrained in the religion and some it's scriptures can't be denied or ignored That's what I think anyway.
Alex, did I ever say Obama isn't a threat to America? He's the one letting them all in for godsakes.
Alex, please learn how to spell "Muslim." It's not 'Muslem.'
Thanks for that, benhawthorne. The Muslim religion teaches it's OK to have many wives, to chop off hands of people who steal, to kill infidels. You obviously need to stop watching MSNBC and read a book.
Koran 9:123 make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood
Koran 8:12 Terrorize and behead those that follow scriptures other than the Koran
It's all in the Koran folks. Islam is not a religion of peace, it is a religion of submission. In fact the word Islam means submission in Arabic
AstroSpace, you obviously have no understanding of what Islam actually teaches. The Quran says to defend yourself and, once those who attacked you stop, stop fighting them. Extremists have manipulated that message to suit their own ends, but to paint the entire group as a threat because of a very small minority is ignorant and mistaken.
"Muslems are a threat to america"
so is Obama.
just as some Christains racism some muslems teach killing us right. but not all, and not even close to the majority.
by your logic Christains are all racist and turning our country down.
what you are doing is judging a group of people based on a very few number of them.
Muslims are a threat to America, the Muslim religion teaches to fight those who oppose Mohammed, they are slowly changing the country for the worse.
Muslims have not existed since the beginning of time and no, we did not just have a shooting because of Muslims. We had a shooting because of a terrorist group that is Muslim. If the KKK doesn't represent all Christians with their racism and violence, ISIS doesn't represent all Muslims. Extremists exist in all religions, but they do not represent the majority. Keep that in mind and stop being intolerant and spreading hate.
NOOOO It's not like we just had a gigantic shooting in Paris because of them and have been combating muslims since the beginning of time...
There are Muslims who are terrorists, but the vast majority of Muslims find the actions just as abhorrent as we do, if not more so.