The debate "Nemiroff is jealous of Najam" was started by
March 10, 2017, 11:31 am.
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thereal posted 6 arguments to the agreers part.
blue_rayy posted 2 arguments, PsychDave posted 21 arguments, neveralone posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.
thereal, human, Jericho, Pugsly and 8 visitors agree.
blue_rayy, PsychDave, neveralone, Nemiroff, makson and 5 visitors disagree.
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I'm not actually.
If you have anything of substance to say I will respond. If you just babble like that I am just going to ignore you.
You are a weak lying hiding cowardly punk, and you're extremely angry that I have a created item for sale, but you have 0 created items for sale.
You coward weak punk.
Are you advocating attempted murder for online insults? You recognize that you are far more insulting than anyone else here who is not currently banned, right?
Beyond that, I'm not hiding from you. I simply don't care about you. Would you drive several hours to step on a bug? Why should I care what an online bully thinks?
You have to hide inside somewhere like a mouse because our lives are more important, and matter more than yours.
So you expect me to abandon my family and take a road trip so that I cam talk to you? In what world do you think that is rational? Maybe, being single and a student, you have so little to do that this is reasonable, but I have a life and responsibilities that can not be so easily set aside.
He doesn't know about people who grow up where I am from, or anything about the north side.
I want to talk to him on the block where I'm from. He doesn't believe in spirits but my area is on the side where some of the best have died. Yet even those spirits haven't. We are on the North side of all those graveyards in the area for a strategic reason. The westside has very few graveyards, and that's why it's such a deadly area.
if ur here to just talk then I would suggest speaking plainly. it helps people understand
No. You are lying crook who doesn't understand divine law. I just want to talk to you, I never said I am going to kill you over an internet argument. You are the petty crook who has no created items for sale here. I am a merchant.
Uttering threats is a crime. Technically, you are the criminal.
I'm not afraid of a student at a spa. I'm also not going on a road trip to confront an internet bully. You frankly aren't worth the time, money, or effort that would cost.
If you want to prove me wrong, use logic and reason. I am an adult, not an elementary school student. Challenging me to meet you behind the gym is childish, and does nothing to further your arguments.
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. " - Isaac Asimov
You are lying criminal. I never said I am going to kill you.
You are a coward who can't defend your own words face to face, so you have to lie and hide over the internet where I can't let anyone see the embarrassed look on your face.
I threaten to expose you as a coward who will only lie over the internet and never come in person to tell lies.
As to your link to Reddit, which you seem to think is a reputable source of accurate information, I'm not sure what your point was? Are you supporting the Muslim mayor who is trying to stop hate crimes, or agreeing with the people on Reddit that this is one step from Sharia law, which would destroy the UK?
If you want some more information on the policing of online hate crimes, feel free to do some basic research. I doubt you will, but while there is life there is hope.
I'm not pretending I won't die. I'm explaining that you are impotent. You cannot act on your threats and promises.
you are the one pretending you won't die and join those who already lived.
Have you just given up on reality all together now?
His dumb ass, evil ass, hater face ass
If you can't address my arguments, at least have the sense to be silent. You are arguing against an imaginary opponent and considering yourself to he winning.
You are just a lying angry hater upset that I wrote a story with a complete beginning, middle, and end that made sense.
It's honest money and you hate people making money off stories that make sense more than life itself.
I do what you can't do. I have a moral to my story, in addition to getting paid for it, without permission from you, or your cronies.
That is in no way my argument. Stop arguing with your imaginary friend and read what I am writing.
Having a beginning, middle and end is a great start to a story. First graders can make up a story with a beginning, middle and end. From there you need realistic characters. You wrote caricatures. You need to use proper grammar. You did not.
You are right, I refuse to pay for a terribly written piece of religious propaganda, so I can't tell you what happens in the rest of your story. I have never claimed otherwise.
Finally, how much of proceeds from your book are going to Jesus? If Jesus is sharing the wealth with you, you must be giving him some of it.
The story has a proper beginning, middle, and ending. You are lying to everyone because you are a crook who never had intentions to try and understand the story that was put together.
The story is about Jesus.
Just to prove to everyone how big a crook you are, you can't name even one thing he did in the story I wrote attributed to his namesake of which Jesus is sharing the wealth with me.
If you can't defend your work's quality, at least stop embarrassing yourself by pretending no one will notice. Your work is poorly written. If you were to edit it, or have someone else edit it, it might be decent. As it stands now, Twilight is a better story. I would bet that the erotica that is out selling your story on the steps has better grammar.
And yet you still seem incapable of addressing the errors I have pointed out. It is rather cowardly of you to hide from your mistakes, and foolish not to at least acknowledge and learn from them.
My story has a beginning, middle, and end.
The best part is that it makes sense.
Touche! little hater
The crook who hides from criticism is a coward.
The crook who refuses to attempt to understand the story is always a villain and rogue.
If you are incapable of responding to the specific criticisms I gave, there is little point in continuing this conversation. Since you can't defend the quality of your work, you attack anyone who criticizes it.
I don't hate people writing, I criticize people who do it badly. Many people are amazing authors. You just aren't one of them. You might be able to he if you work on your writing instead of lashing out at everyone who points out flaws.
why would Psychdave tear down copies of Quran? Also, do you really think he's a criminal? or are you just trolling? Psychdave is a sensible and logical person. He has a quality and has a respect in the society.
I'm not blaming you for being narrow minded. Cause that's the only way how you think. You might be a highly meritious person in the field of academics ( you have mentioned it) but you are too narrow minded and short sighted. You live in a world of fantasy.
I dont disrespect your book nor am I denying anybody from buying it. Honestly, there's nothing to feel jealous of your book. Its full of mistakes and false information and lies. Psychdave said you to correct certain parts of the book ( the horrible grammar) . He didnt say to change its theme and background. You should have admitted your mistakes and should corrected the book. But instead, you called Psychdave a criminal and a jealous hater.
Let me say you a thing, Psychdave's a much better person than you. You are jealous of him. You. YOU. not he's of you.
You're a criminal and a hater whose angry about my awesome storytelling ability. Crooks burn books.
Crooks hate others for writing books.
Crooks are evil men who can't tell a story with a beginning, middle and ending and then sell it.
All evil men hate when other men accomplish what they can't.
It must have been hard growing up in Chicago and surviving. Good work.
Nope, not related to me. Try again, but this time try using reality, not your delusions.
You are a jealous criminal. I survived and used the art of storytelling.
You hate the fact that I can tell a fantastic story with a beginning, middle, and ending because you are a criminal on the planet closely related to this one:
You are right that it wouldn't matter if you had written it in braille. Stories can be well crafted in any language, or even through pictures. The language in which it was written changes who can read it, but does not determine the value of the story.
You are also fundamentally wrong. Not all books have equal value. Some are well written and subtle. Some create a fully realized world with complex character and societies. Some examine society or the human condition and make the reader examine their own life. Some detail history or the life of someone who did great or terrible things.
And then there is your story. Filled with errors, flat caricatures for characters, and exists in a parody of the real world that is meant to be serious. It is poorly masked religious propaganda. As I said earlier, you are trying to peddle a shoddy product. I am not a criminal for pointing out the flaws in your effort, and I am hardly jealous of you turning out such a fundamentally flawed product.
Finally, Chicago is probably pretty dangerous if you hang out with criminals and prostitutes. I don't doubt that words can get you killed with the people you apparently hang out with. I tend to associate with people who will not kill someone over words, but each person has to choose their own circle of friends.
You are only lying to hide the fact that you never even attempted to read or decipher the story.
Even if I was Hellen Keller and had to write in Braille, my own completed and published work has just as much value as any book a man writes himself and presents for sale. Depending on what manner of man, I would pay his price if those are his own words.
Where I roam, the wrong words can get you quickly killed. It's not just because of guns. Words and authority are far more closely related than you'll ever know from your sheltered situation in life. I get to be an author because I paid my dues, applicable with or without your permission, whether either of us is dead or alive.
OK, you seem to have veered off into your fantasy world there.
I am in the process of writing a story now, so it has yet to be published, read, or mocked.
Also, you call me a criminal, but I haven't been lying about who I was.
You have repeatedly insulted anyone only married to one woman, but you are not even married.
You claim to be an English teacher and a scholar, but you write like an elementary school student.
You claim that my criticism of your story is jealousy and anger at my own shortcomings, but fail to address that I am pointing out specific shortcomings in your work. If you were trying to sell me a table with a broken leg, I would criticize your workmanship. Likewise if you try to sell a story riddled with errors and one dimensional characters, I will point this out.
Your inability to either create good writing or defend the specific examples I have pointed out reflects you, not me.
If you are so desperate to read my story, you will have to be patient. It is in progress, but my family and career are much higher priorities than proving a point to someone online.
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You are a lying criminal incapable of writing a complete story with a beginning, middle, and ending from your own head.
Of course you are a criminal who hates and despises anyone capable of writing, producing, and selling a created product of their own without you and your cronies explicit approval and endorsement.
The mockery of us all reading your complete story for sale is extremely embarrassing for you, so we have no choice but accept your critique of stories from your enemy that you never read and only say evil things about to hide your own chaotic mind incapable of producing a story that any living person can read or critique.
I don't hate it or you. I have no interest in your story because it is poorly written and is religious propaganda. I pity you because you consider your life's accomplishment to be less than 100 sales of your self published book.
You claim that I can not and will never write a book. You say this apparently forgetting that I started to do so less than a week ago. You've already said it took you months to write what you put online, so why would you expect me to publish something within a week? Just because you have low standards for writing doesn't mean I will rush.
You are a hater who is extremely angry that I can write and tell a complete story from beginning to end.
That's your Achilles heel, my criminal adversary.
It doesn't matter if I misspelled a word or had 5 cases of incomplete sentence construction.
The story makes sense and sells.
I don't have to sell the Mercedes of books.
Storytelling is an art.
You hate my story because you are only a crook with no story of your own to tell or sell.
After we die, I am still going to get credit for writing a story that made sense, and your story will be that of a pathetic jealous hater who could never write and sell any story from your own head that made dollars or sense.
I create and sell my own product no matter how much you hate it.
You have grammatical errors in the first sentence. That isn't technique, that is incompetence. Use some of your vast earnings from your $150 book (which for some reason is not connected to your profile) to hire an editor and you will likely sell substantially more books.
I will mirror your words so that hopefully this time you don't get confused and lapse into swearing sulking.
Yes, he falsely accused me of being a "baddie".
He then said he could make lots of money selling drugs. I have never sold drugs, so why does he think that is the other choice?
Also, he's American. I don't know how his Mandarin is, but his English is terrible. He lost the ability to hide behind no one knowing his background when he posted links to his Facebook and Twitter. Either you are too dumb to remember that, or you think he is lying about who he is. Either way, your defending him doesn't make a lot of sense. Unless you are just butter that I have repeatedly pointed out your stupidity and are lashing out as best you can.
There you go. Nice, simple words so as not to confuse you. Will it stick in your head, this time?
My English is acceptable at any school.
His problem is with my storytelling ability. I put artistic performance in the book. It has to read to see the strokes and techniques used.
Also, all you can do is scrutinise his use of grammar even though english is not his native tongue. yet im sure he can write english much better than you can write mandarin. you are not the one in the position of power here.
PsychDave, clearly you do not meet the system requirements to understand basic logic. you are outdated, here ill bullet point them for you with baby words that youll understand:
-he accused you of being a baddie.
-he then stated that he could be a baddie like you and make lots of money from doing bad things.
-he then finally stated that he is choosing to make money righteously by selling books because he isnt a dirtbag like you.
there you go, three easy bullet points for you. remember, recite it multiple times so it sticks in your memory.
I don't deny that a single well thought out and properly placed paragraph it would count just as much as The Happy People Who Heard About Jesus. In fact, I would say a well formed sentence would be worth more.
Kids learn to write early in elementary school. Congrats, you are as productive a member of society as a 10 year old. That you consider that an accomplishment says volumes about you.
I was raised on a family farm. Where do you get the idea that I support slavery and plantations? Just because I think your writing is crap and that you are lazy for not editing it and greedy for trying to get people to pay $10 for it doesn't mean I don't appreciate hard work. I just don't believe all work people consider hard has equal value. Some people find tying their shoes challenging. That doesn't mean I will pay you for managing to do it badly.
Do you how much it costs to teach a person how to write a single paragraph?
That means if I wrote a book consisting of only a single well thought out and properly placed paragraph it would count just as much as The Happy People Who Heard About Jesus.
You just a two bit low down dirty hater supporting those who still inherit fortunes and plantations from the after effects of slavery.
Ozzy Osbourne has a daughter that the likes of you should appreciate patronizing whatever item or product she presents for sale.
Clown, I started off as the only son of a dead veteran with 0 and still wipe the upside down frown onto your face.
Thanks for demonstrating that only half a brain is required.
Putting aside the claim that charging $10 for poorly written religious propaganda is making money "righteously", I questioned the morals of someone who defaults to crime as an alternate income.
When challenged on the viability of his income from writing, his response was that he could make lots of money selling drugs. Unless he is suggesting that as his fallback career, how is that relevant. He could have said he could make lots of money working a legitimate job, as most people do. Instead he defaults from writing to crime.
Hes not suggesting that at all. Anyone with half a brain can see that all he is stating is that any old person can engage in crime to make money but he is CHOOSING to make money righteously.
I'm already employed and supporting my family. I don't need to ask you how to make an honest living. You are the one who seems to be suggesting that if you can't make money as an author you would turn to crime. That would make you the dirt bag.
You are a dirtbag!
OF COURSE,I can even rob a bank to get more than I have made selling the book. The point is that you're a creep that should be asking me what are acceptable ways for you to make clean honest, and uncursed money.,
OK, I'm sure you could. Some of us don't hang out with criminals and cannibals though, and are gainfully employed in non-crininal businesses. Do you have a point to suggesting you could be a felon?
Sure, I can sell crack cocaine and heroin and make a whole bunch more money you pathetic filth.
wait. i.e. 100 x 10 = 1000$ = not at all sufficient for a proper living.
No, I am employed and make money to feed my family. If you think less than 100 sales of a religious fan fiction story in more than a year is a viable income, you clearly are delusional.
The ability to manufacture, produce, and sell an item is one of the most valuable asset any man can possibly achieve.
You mock humanity.
I have met men who think and possess nothing except their own blood, which is bought from them at an extremely cheap price. They place limits on how much blood may be sold, and when.
You are part of the rogues who seek to devalue and deprive the people of ways to make money.
I'm sure you will be able to retire and live off of the royalties from your tens of sales of your self published, amateur story.
He is jealous about me beating him in selling books.
Nemiroff is actually one of my alter egos.
Ever seen Inception?
did u not just say that nemiroff is jealous of najam? how can someone be jealous of themselves?
LOL! Yup, i am proudcanadian, historybuff, najam, nemiroff, neveralone and psychdave. Well done, you found me out! Those are all my troll acounts thats why their arguments are so bad.
I guess this settles the debate on najam and theidiot being the same person... and we already know you are roguecanadian. you can't even troll properly. so weak.