The debate "No religion is different from one another" was started by
October 12, 2015, 6:56 pm.
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That might be enough to see the common perception.
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There are pieces of fabric that are 2,800 years old. Fabric has progressed since then, so why should it be miraculous that some kept safe and dry by the church would last?
For the entire account of Juan Diego all we have is the records kept by the church. Basically we have a group of powerful men telling us that something happened which confirms why they should run things, and we should take their word for it. That is the problem I have with it. There is nothing proving it true except the word of the people who stand to directly benefit from it.
back in Mexico in the 1600's they did not have preserving materials, it could have not been preserved until well over 7 years.
what do you mean denounced? Mother Teresa did many miracles, some that the church looked into may have been denouced, but not the ones they used.
little girls in small villages and Juan Diego have no power or influence. the bishop even doubted Diego at first.
How long fabric lasts depends on how it is treated. Paintings fade over time, but the Mona Lisa is still in good condition because it has been carefully preserved. Are people still wearing the cloak, or has it been preserved?
I don't doubt that the church has records showing Exactly what they want it to. Look how quickly they found miracles to beautify Mother Teresa, even though the miracles are denounced by those involved. Why should I believe that there is an accurate record of a rural village when the Bible itself was not written out for hundreds of years?who interviewed the people involved to know what was really said?
I don't doubt the moon landing because there is proof that it happened. You can actually see where they landed on the moon with a sufficiently powerful telescope. I just don't have blind faith when someone tells me something. I confirm it if possible. Your only proof is provided by the people using it to maintain power and influence.
native americans did not make great fabric. records show the fabric held up for about 7 years, not hundreds.
we have records of that town, the town was small and uneducated, a girl starts spouting stuff about a immaculate conception, people investigate, find out what is happening in rome.
do you believe in anything that happened before you were born? your not one of those people who think the moon landings were fake, right? because you seem to believe very little.
How bad do you believe fabric is that you think it turns to dust within a few years?
How do you know what Mary told a country girl thousands of years ago?
our Lady of Guatalupea appeared to Juan Diego, and a picture of her appeared on his cloak, his cloak, which should have turned to dust a few years later still stands today. it has been intact for hundreds of years.
also the doctrine of the immaculate conception of Mary was confirmed by Mary herself. quick story: Mary told a uneducated girl in a small village "I am the immaculate conception" this girl had no idea that this was being discussed in Rome, or what the immaculate conception was. it is very unlikely that this girl had a delusion about the same thing, and at the same time it was being discussed.
angels are a figment of the imagination filled in by the brain.
And the expanse of the universe is actually not confirmed, but according to physics and other chemical reactions, it is the best we have gotten.
And ever heard of telescopes and microscopes for the universe and atom? At least by believing that God created the universe you admit the fact that there is one?
Actually, look at the truth here, it's more of a set of do s and don't s. And hitmen, we can confirm Caesar was real because his contributions have been recorded and may even affect our lives today.
God is real.
of course all religions are differant. many religions are just a set of dos and donts. many religions just stay as a religion. however christianity is a relatiobship between god and us. it is not a set of dos and donts.
Mary has appeared to people many times.
So have angles. Prayers do work sometimes, they. don't work all the time because we are not in charge of God, he wants us to believe by ourselves, and by faith, not by seeing him, if we all saw him we would all believe, but not because of faith. the book of job is about believing even in trails, and then being rewarded.
You said how much does religion matter in life, but reality is how much does life matter without religion? life is a very small time compared to forever.
Have you ever sean Ceasar? How do we even knew he existed? Have you ever sean the expance of the universe? Have you ever sean a atom?
I think religion is more about brainwashing people. Had anybody ever seen God?...Jesus?. We might as well confess to a ghost.
Of course they are all different. The kinds of actions which are justifiable vary from doctrine to doctrine. It would be very hard to justify suicide bombings in the context of the Christian doctrine. It is much easier for taoism or Islam to conclude suicide bombings are acceptable. It is also easy to see why Judaism doesn't lend itself to imperialistic policies, while Christian and Islamic doctrines do. They are vastly different because of the ideals and thought processes ascribed to each doctrine.
Everyone is entitled to believe in what comforts them. i respect that. If God was real and looking down on us all, I figured he could save so many more lives. Somehow stopping a castraphe before it happens. Ypu pray for peace, you pray for the sick, etc. But nothing ever happens
Though on further thought, if you are of the opinion that it is all made up stories that don't matter, that is a way they are the same, at least from your perspective.
Whether it matters is a separate debate altogether.
I would be interested to know how religion even matters in every day life. I think it's strange how people believe in something that was just made up by someone else. Believing in something that's not even real
I would be interested in hearing how Buddhism is identical to Judaism. Taoism or Shinto to Christianity would also be intriguing.