Objectivity is impossible

February 6, 2014, 3:22 am

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The debate "Objectivity is impossible" was started by tkershaw3 on February 6, 2014, 3:22 am. 17 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 21 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

BespokeJokeBloke posted 1 argument, epoche posted 1 argument, Fromage posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
Michelle_M posted 1 argument, echofrommadiun posted 1 argument, renatus8993 posted 1 argument, I_Voyager posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

tkershaw3, BespokeJokeBloke, rickrollross, Caproci, ncitramanda, nikoli3664, epoche, Jake, Fromage, stormshy and 7 visitors agree.
Michelle_M, suchadahl, echofrommadiun, dadatata, renatus8993, olilongboat, Mufti, milimehta068, Cormi98, I_Voyager and 11 visitors disagree.

Being generally objective within humanity is possible, however it is impossible for us to do so universally, as a different animal or organism will see something differently to the point where we won't even understand that view, therefore just making us ignore it or not even see it in the first place.

For example, let's say we find life on another planet far away. They will be barely related to us. Therefore the things they do we won't understand. As we base everything we see on things that we as humans do, these other life forms will be doing things completely different.

So let's say we place a blue car in front of the previous far away life form, and an average human. The human will see a blue car. The other life form could probably just see some squiggles as their brain could receive images differently. Or they could not have a brain and not have any reaction with the car.

So basically, my point is that the view on the blue car is biased towards humans with how our society works and how our brain works. As it would be impossible for a human to be empathetic and to understand the other life form as humans base everything on themselves making it impossible to be objective.

5 years, 2 months ago

I think it's probable that objective states exist, and that given, I believe objective states can be observed and known. Although the method of knowledge is a process of events and those events can contain within it impurities, I hardly think it means that objectivity is impossible. But the easier the perceiving system has the ability to describe its own knowledge structures, and the pressure there is to survive or achieve a stated goal, the more likely bias is going to get into the way.

The problem with us humans is we spend more time complaining about the division between the subject and the object than we spend trying to derive technologies with which we can compensate for human idiocy.

5 years, 2 months ago

In theory it is possible, but in practicality it is impossible. Unless one can successfully identify their biases and suspend them while being empathetic when evaluating something or someone, it is impossible. And due to each individuals perspective being different from everyone else's, it is impossible.

5 years, 2 months ago

let's step out of this so called "box".... realize that both subjectivity and objectivity exist based on their dualistic nature.

5 years, 3 months ago

It’s better than subjectivity. When you want to do a vote, it’s should be objective not subjective. If you want to fix the problems, don’t look only from your side. Pretend if you are in his or her position as well. In short, objectivity is possible.

5 years, 6 months ago

Some people are incredibly close-minded and biased. Other people are rational and possess the skills to think outside of themselves and view all sides of a situation without prejudice. While objectivity may be difficult and unlikely, it is not impossible.

6 years, 2 months ago

We can only see the world through our own eyes

6 years, 3 months ago
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