Paul's letters take priority over the gospels during contradictions

July 5, 2020, 4:22 am

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The debate "Paul's letters take priority over the gospels during contradictions" was started by Nero on July 5, 2020, 4:22 am. 2 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 8 people are on the disagree side. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

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Cdawgthree
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In a way, yes. He was an artistic interpreter of his environment. I do not advocate his philosophy universally, but I respect it as a piece of art, as an action and reaction of his time period. I believe he teaches some very important things, but I also believe this to be the case with all art.

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Nemiroff
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so you consider him to be man, but a great man. a philosopher, a humanitarian... kinda like MLK, Ghandi, or Mandela?

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Cdawgthree
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I consider Jesus to be a glimpse of the ubermensch, or the "higher man." He is one who creates his own value. Above all, I consider him to be a philosopher, an artist. And, as most artists, they strive to create, they strive to embody a God. God's creation is only destroyed and devalued by dogma and foundationalism. My rendition of Jesus stays true to that of the artist, while the "Christian" views him as the savior.

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Nemiroff
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so what is jesus? is he man? is he god? is he simply a profit?

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Cdawgthree
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My only source is the general difference in their messages. You are right to say Paul is more intolerant. By elevating Jesus to the status of "savior," or "the" son of God, erects a podium for the priestly type to look down from. It gives a sense of philosophical hierarchy. Not only that, but Paul took what was allegorical and dogmatized it. No longer was heaven and hell states of the mind, but promises and rewards. No longer was the kingdom of God within us, but now existed in the "beyond" or "afterlife." No longer was man the son, the gateway to the father, or the end, blessedness, but now the father and son existed as idols, beings to be worshiped and obeyed.

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Nemiroff
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by that i mean ive heard him being accused of spreading a more intolerant view towards sinners like gays, as opposed to jesus's method of love and acceptance. however i couldnt find major references to back this up and was hoping you would explain.

however this is a highly meta complaint that could have major, but indirect effects on the views of christianity.

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Nemiroff
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that's the reason for the corruption of christianity? seems like a technicality.

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Cdawgthree
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By claiming to be the son of God, Jesus claimed nothing for himself alone. We are all sons of God. Paul, by elevating him to the one and only son of God, strips us of the original message of Christ: that we are all equal as free spirits. Jesus did not attract the herd and the downtrodden for no reason. His way of life appealed to those who sought to be saved. His way of life was that of peace and fairness. By elevating him to the one and only son of God, you not only dogmatize him, but you set him to war against all other valid forms of ideology. Imagine if someone were to call their favorite painting "the one and only true artwork." Jesus did not die as a sacrifice. He did not intend to be a scapegoat. He died as he lived, and died for nothing more than staying true to his own ideology

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Nemiroff
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how?

1 month ago

Paul is the reason for the corruption of Christianity. He mutilated the word of Christ.

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