People have souls

anonymous
September 28, 2016, 10:19 am

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The debate "People have souls" was started by an anonymous person on September 28, 2016, 10:19 am. 25 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 10 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

neveralone posted 6 arguments to the agreers part.
Nemiroff posted 4 arguments, TheExistentialist posted 3 arguments, makson posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

neveralone, Hijumi, shelbeyyy, metheonlyme, Ematio, Cjselfie01, thereal, The13yearoldconservative and 17 visitors agree.
historybuff, TheExistentialist, Nemiroff, tony, ProfDoke, makson, FaithofExaltism and 3 visitors disagree.

neveralone
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so what made u decide to say that?

2 years, 2 months ago

no souls, only energy

2 years, 2 months ago
neveralone
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I put my answer in the abortion vine

2 years, 7 months ago
neveralone
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

2 years, 7 months ago
neveralone
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yes.

Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic or a scientific result

2 years, 7 months ago

@neveralone
in the abortion debate I made an analogy regarding the soul and conception, not sure if you missed it. was wondering about your take on it.

2 years, 7 months ago
TheExistentialist
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That sounds like you're just making a ton of assumptions. Have you ever heard of occam's razor?

2 years, 7 months ago
neveralone
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no. it goes to heaven and then to God and Jesus and depending on who it is states if they get passed the gate. how can u prove self-conscious dies? what if u simply slip away when ur vessel can't transport u anymore? though this is all about faith so u might not like touching it. idk

2 years, 7 months ago
PsychDave
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Self consciousness ends with brain death. Are you saying souls die with the body?

2 years, 7 months ago
neveralone
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u could simply say it's another word for self consciousness. though science isn't a 100? sure what that is either do they? yet we agree we're self-conscious wether we fully understand it or not.

2 years, 7 months ago

even assuming that the experiment was legitamete, it would be a far leap to assume the missing weight was a divine and immortal soul. it could have as easily been gas.

2 years, 8 months ago
TheExistentialist
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First off, don't say "look it up yourself". If you have a source show it. i don't know which experiment you're talking about so i can't very well look it up. You're being lazy at best....dishonest/deceitful at worst.

If you're talking about the "weight loss experiment after death" (I'm not sure what the actual name of the study was), there is a huge problem: no one has ever been able to repeat those results. If you can't repeat the data of a given experiment, than either the methodology for that experiment were not valid, the researchers failed to account for other variables, or the data is fake. In any case, it doesn't constitute evidence, much less proof of anything. In the case of MacDougall's weight loss experiment, it seems that it was a combination of fraud, methodology, and unfactored variables. He forged the data of at least one patient, excluded data sets from other patients that contradicted his conclusion, and didn't account for postmortem sweating which occurs as the body heats from a lack of respiration.

2 years, 8 months ago

or you can link the evidence that backs up your claim....

2 years, 8 months ago

I'd love to hear an argument for it.....it's a pretty hard notion to argue for.

2 years, 8 months ago

Maybe. We may never truly know.

2 years, 8 months ago

maybe, maybe not.
at least in the literal sense this is just another concept that for now, relies entirely on faith.

2 years, 8 months ago
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