People in poverty should not have children because they are not capable of giving them a decent life

April 21, 2020, 4:04 pm

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The debate "People in poverty should not have children because they are not capable of giving them a decent life" was started by diecinueve on April 21, 2020, 4:04 pm. 18 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 34 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

Nemiroff posted 4 arguments, Allirix posted 2 arguments to the disagreers part.

Paula and 17 visitors agree.
Nemiroff, tyler0300, Allirix, jrardin12, MattZB, kapil, AVA, StrangeTime, Rashia, Fezile and 24 visitors disagree.

Nemiroff
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being a problem doesnt mean its better to not exist. poverty causes many problems, that doesn't mean poor people cant experience joy.

there certainly is a point of poverty where you shouldnt have children, its when you cant afford any food... and those people wont make it through a pregnancy so nature takes care of that.

11 months, 3 weeks ago
diecinueve
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So poverty is not a problem? Shouldn't we try to reduce poverty?

11 months, 3 weeks ago
Allirix
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Actually, thanks to the hedonic treadmill and prevalence-induced concept change happiness doesn't strongly correlate with wealth at all. Poor people are just as happy as the rich. Your expectations and desires naturally adapt to your means.

So happiness is actually a justification for allowing poverty stricken families to continue breeding. The family will be just as happy as a rich family.

It's abusive or drug addicted people that shouldn't breed.

11 months, 3 weeks ago
diecinueve
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but their unhappiness is not caused by poverty. The more poverty, the less happy you are, if not, poverty would not be a problem. So there must be a point of poverty where you cannot be happy, it is they who should not have children

11 months, 3 weeks ago
Nemiroff
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thats ambigious. plenty of spoiled rich kids arent happy.

11 months, 3 weeks ago
diecinueve
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a life where they are not happy

11 months, 3 weeks ago
Nemiroff
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a certain age is very young in the developing world. even in the developed world, in agriculture, young children can help on the family farm.

what would you consider not a decent life?

11 months, 3 weeks ago
diecinueve
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until they reach that age they will not have a decent life. It is not correct to make children suffer for years to support their parents

11 months, 3 weeks ago
Allirix
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Children help support their parents after a certain age. This is often critical to surviving under the poverty line in developing countries, and is what happened in Australia (and probably the USA) when the baby boomers were born.

11 months, 3 weeks ago
diecinueve
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What do you mean by economic boon? And how can we improve the system so that all children have a decent life?

11 months, 3 weeks ago

worldwide, especially in impoverished countries, children are an economic boon.

in america, the poor are not so poor for such a draconian and inhumane law.
also in america we need more population. we also have the capabilities to improve the system instead of shooting ourselves in the foot trying to blame the poor for existing.

11 months, 3 weeks ago
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