The debate "People who deny the world wide flood say there is no evidence. Earth is covered by 70% of water." was started by
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Sorry I deleted my previous comment . I was gonna say the same thing but re word it.
I don't know if God exists or not.
Also, there is an entire thread about the existence of proof of God's existence. You should take a look.
How is giving a rough time line based on every available scientific evidence less empirical that a magic flood that killed them but didn't wash them away?
As to the bell, that's an interesting story I hadn't read about before. The problem with it is that it is based on the testimony of one man who found a bell years before (when he was 10) and he says it was in a lump of coal. The only verification is that he took a polygraph test, and that, after 60 years of telling the story, he believes it himself. Polygraphs don't test if what you are saying is true, they test if you believe what you are saying. They also aren't perfect even at that, which is why they can't be used in court.
12million is not empirical. That number is an excuse to bypass time while looking for actual evidence of things. Pre-Flood human artifact. A bell made of brass and bronze.+ (arsenic sodium and antimony which are not found in alloy in America) Discovered in 1912 at a coal mine in Thompson Oklahoma. It was encased in a lump of coal. later abstracted and tested. Genesis 4:22 KJV
I'm not entirely sure how that helps your argument. Taken directly from the website for the National Park :
About 12 million years ago, a volcano in southwest Idaho spread a blanket of ash over a very large area. One or two feet of this powdered glass covered the flat savannah-like grasslands of northeastern Nebraska.
Most of the animals which lived here survived the actual ashfall, but as they continued to graze on the ash covered grasses, their lungs began to fill up with the abrasive powder. Soon their lungs became severely damaged and they began to die.
The smaller animals died first (smaller lung capacities) and finally, after perhaps three to five weeks, the last of the rhinos perished.Their bodies were quickly covered by the blowing and drifting ash.
Undisturbed except by an occasional scavenging meat-eater, the skeletons of these animals are preserved in their death positions, complete with evidence of their last meals in their mouths and stomachs and their last steps preserved in the sandstone below.
Ashfall fossil beds Nebraska
About the Nebraska rhino graveyard, where can I find information on it? I did a Google search and all I could find were blogs. If you have more information, who discovered it? Where in Nebraska is it? I can't find any details, so I can't exactly debate something I can't prove actually exists.
I'll start with fish fossils found "in a state of panic with their eyes gouging out in fear and fins spread." I'm going to assume you meant bulging out since autocorrect periodically messes up my words, but I would like to point out that soft tissue, like eyes, doesn't tend to fossilize,it rots. Beyond that, go to a pet store and tell me which of the fish with bulging eyes are panicking and which just have bulging eyes.
Next, the form of the Grand Canyon. Water rapidly moving would flatten everything, not care a narrow channel to restrict it. Go to the beach and see how many small canyons the waves carve into the sand. Rather than make canyons, the waves will flatten things and wear them down.
During an ice age, there is ice, not a flood of liquid water.
As to your argument that no civilization existed before Babel, you may want to look into the age of the pyramids. A flood that covers the world would probably have damaged them, and they predate the flood by a fair margin.
The great fountains of the deep that busted open. And the Bible describes a canopy of water over the earth. Massive rappid animal burial. Fish fossils found in a panic state with their eyes gouging out in fear and fins spread. The Nebraska Rhino Graveyard. The Form of the Grand Canyon. During this time was also the so called "Ice Age". To be more specific I can provide this proof with anthropology. After the flood., Genesis Chapeter 11 talks about a city a city named Babel. It was the first civilization to come about after the flood. Archaeologist in the 1800's did an excavation and discovered the ancient ruins. There is no archeological evidence what so ever to prove that any older civilization existed before this one. It is the oldest civilization known to man.
Evolution is obviously a mystery to you so I am not going to bother debating the obviously false claim that scientists believe fish fell from space rather than evolved here.
As to your theory that the ocean have all the water from the flood, how did the volume of water change? If the water used to cover every inch of ground, where is all the extra water?
No, I think that 70% of the planet being covered in water is a clue that the Earth has a lot of water. Floods don't multiply existing water, then somehow remove the excess. Floods are water moving from one place to another. That's why they happen after it rains or ice and snow thaws. Rain isn't a magic water producer. The water evaporates, condenses into clouds, and then falls. If a lot of water is pushed to the same place, then rains, there is a flood. You may want to look into basic meteorology, or just the water cycle, to get a better understanding.
If there was a world wide flood water should still be hanging around some where right? Do you think 70% of the earth being covered by water is a good clue that there was a flood?
Most people in the science community agree that a comet made of ice of some form hit the planet at the perfect timing for a chemical reaction to birth the what is now theory of how water is on the planet. It is obviously a lie. The amount of species of fish is large. I have one question for the believers of this theory. Did those rocks in space have Fish on them? The obvious answer is no. Just think about it.
And this is proof that there was a flood how?