The debate "Pleading insane should not alter the sentence of murder. A death is a death" was started by
January 6, 2015, 11:09 pm.
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Murder is murder, insane or not. However, there are circumstances to take into account when determining the consequences. Someone who Is incompetent is far different from someone who intentionally committed the crime. If someone is deemed insane, then they should be hospitalized versus receiving a death sentence. However, I suspect there are far less people who fit this criteria than people who plead to it. I disagree with the comment that they should be hospitalized until they are better - if they committed this act once, I do not think they can get "better", it's not like getting over a cold. If guilty, it should be a life sentence, hospital, prison or death row. The victim lost their life and so should the perpetrator, in a fashion.
until they are better they shouldn't be treated any different?
so we are going to kill them before they get better......wow what a great idea, your practically Einstein's twin......yes that was a massive dose of sarcasm there.
Will you stop using your candy world saying of "we're all a bit insane"!!
if you can't produce proof for that statement....then don't use it please.
like flimpy said, children and old people with disabilities commiting murder?
how would you like to justify their deaths?
It doesn't matter if the murderer is insane or not ! Unless they are put in a mental home for the rest of their lives or until they are better, they shouldn't get treated any different. You do something wrong, you pay the consequences. We are all 'insane'. others have just grown to be at a higher level because of their experiences or whatever.
There's no excuse for killing an innocent person.
Pleading insane, if validated, should keep the person alive. Not because they shouldn't be blamed for their actions, but because they can and should be studied. The more we can understand about flaws in the brain and mind, the better for the neuroscientific community. This should be pursued.
makes me laugh how you think I have so many years on me.....
if I am thinking a little than your not thinking at all!
justice? you want to talk about justice?
if the murderer is actually insane than it would be unjust to give him a sentence for a crime he was not fully responsible for.
do you think victims ( dead by the way! ) have a need of holding their dignity in the grave by primitive bloodshed?
turns it into a vicious circle of continued bloodshed, defeating the purpose of justice.
and no I am definitely not biast.
unlike you I have informed my self with all factors and have then formed my conclusion.
in saying that I remain open to others views, otherwise I wouldn't be on a debating app would I?
thank you Flimpy! you've thought it through!
By the same logic of "a death is a death" we should punish children just as harshly as adults for murder, even though they don't understand the concept of death or murder or even the legal system. Not saying all insanity cases are excused, but the circumstances matter.
Dignity for the victim! Dying knowing that someone is getting away with less than they deserve.
I'm speaking from a non bias point of view here. You're obviously gathering little opinions from everyone around you from all your years and relying on them for your arguments. Think openly for yourself for a bit ai?
for once I completely agree with Mr. Anonymous!
is there is dignity in mandatory slaughter to make the families feel good?
that seems to be what you base all your arguments on, feeling good, thank god we don't rely on you for the legal system!
may I add that adding a little whimsical saying of " everyones a bit insane" is a very poor way of entering into a logical debate.
so please rephrase your argument, or maybe stop while your ahead.
Nothing can replace a loved one and to find out the murderer is getting a much less sentence because they are 'insane' is appauling'.
where is the dignitity?
We are all a little bit insane, in different levels so that shouldn't be an excuse for a murder.
So we should treat people like dogs who bite people because they lack the ability to understand what it is they did? Because that's what you're implying. Also, no a death is not a death. The circumstances greatly matter.