Prayer should be brought back to school.

June 12, 2015, 11:11 am

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The debate "Prayer should be brought back to school." was started by owentowe on June 12, 2015, 11:11 am. 16 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 24 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

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I_Voyager posted 3 arguments, PsychDave posted 5 arguments to the disagreers part.

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I_Voyager
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I think what we need from you is a more descriptive position. Do you intend that all children pray? Or just that prayer be allowed in school? I am interpreting what you've brought up as a enforced prayer mandate in schools as I experienced in Catholic school (the lord's prayer right after the national anthem). I may be wrong about that, but you're not being descriptive so I can't find another way to interpret what you're saying.

If my kid didn't want to recite a prayer at the beginning of class because morally he disagreed with prayer, or instead he wanted to recite poetry which fulfilled within him the role of religion, would you find this acceptable? Or what if the Muslim kid wanted to lay down his prayer mat and perform the Salat al-zuhr?

4 years, 5 months ago

You are not forcing anyone to believe, just saying that they should have to at least give lip service to your God.

4 years, 5 months ago

So you forcing your religion on others is acceptable because your God is true, but ISIS doing the same is not? Their means are more violent, but you are expressing the same sentiment. "My God is the only true God and everyone should pray to Him." You are suggesting doing so through education and presumably using the legal system to implement it rather than threats of violence and murder. Your method is far less extreme, and I am not lumping you in with fanatical murderers, but your sentiment follows the same line, it just doesn't follow it as far into fanaticism.

I condemn ISIS forcing people to convert or die. I condemn anyone trying to force another to follow their God whether they like it or not. Freedom of religion means that no one should force you to worship a God, no matter how right they feel their God is.

4 years, 5 months ago

I'm not trying to shove it down your throat. I'm not forcing you to believe.

4 years, 5 months ago
I_Voyager
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Okay. You want prayer in school to the one and only god. But I don't want to pray to the god because I'm pretty sure there are no gods. So instead I want to pray some other prayer which is more meaningful to me. Maybe I want to recite poetry. Are you going to make me stay late after class because I didn't pray?

I agree a kid should be able to pray whenever they want to. But I don't think it's fair to force prayer in schools for the Christian god when it's only Christians who believe that this god exists.

4 years, 5 months ago

I understand your argument but GOD is our one and only creator. And about forced religion say that to ISIS who are killing people because they think their religion is the one and only religion.

4 years, 5 months ago

I didn't say or imply it was a crime. I said imposing your religion on others in a public school system was not appropriate or acceptable. If you would not want your children praying to Vishnu in a public school, why do you feel forcing Hindu children to pray to your God is acceptable? What sets your God apart as being the one religion that everyone should respect at the expense of all others? If you want your kids to say a daily prayer, have bedtime prayers or morning prayers. Either everyone prays to each God, or we keep prayer out of public schools. Anything else and you are saying that your God is the only God that can be worshiped, which is violating other people's freedom of religion.

4 years, 5 months ago

Last time I checked praying to GOD wasn't a crime. What do you think about 27 Christians being beheaded because they won't convert to Islam? That's a crime.

4 years, 5 months ago

You only have one God. Others have a different God or Gods. Why should they be forced to commit sacrilege because it would make you feel better?

4 years, 5 months ago

Everybody shouldn't have to pray to another religion each day, we only have one GOD.

4 years, 5 months ago

The flaw is that you assume that the prayer should be to your God. To be fair, if we are having a daily prayer in schools, we should make sure we respect every religion. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, and the church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster to name a few. We could alternate which religion is prayed to each day, that way no one feels left out.

4 years, 5 months ago

I'm not implying that we should have an organized "shove it down your throat" religious school, but a prayer to start the day.

4 years, 5 months ago

You shouldn't force GOD on people who don't believe it.

Where I come from there is are two public school systems. One is truly public, the other is Catholic. I attended a Catholic school. I prayed every day and went to mass frequently. Looking back on it as an atheist, I am troubled by what is for me now a meaningless repetition that was forced upon. The best thing I ever did was leave and go to a public school where the presupposition of religion wasn't forced upon me.

4 years, 5 months ago

I believe prayer should be brought back to school because GOD is so essential in everyday life. Without GOD we wouldn't be here. Without praying to GOD then we wouldn't have good communication ability with our creator, and we would get away from relying on him. I believe prayer needs to be brought back to schools to help children get in a routine and understand why talking with our heavenly father is so important in our everyday lives.

4 years, 5 months ago
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