The debate "Present feminists are moronic and have no place in modern society" was started by
July 26, 2015, 9:44 pm.
11 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 22 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
AstroSpace posted 9 arguments to the agreers part.
sloanstar1000 posted 2 arguments, historybuff posted 3 arguments, PsychDave posted 3 arguments, DerpedLocke posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.
AstroSpace, Bodaciouslady16, musejay1, The_lamp, theQueenofdebate, dgw23, Psych_Code and 4 visitors agree.
PsychDave, sloanstar1000, historybuff, thisrisingtide, Abid_CUSD, Trance, toyunique, DerpedLocke, wayneSPEC, Tristanzee, xbulletwithbutterflywingsx, AngryBlogger, Anandapadmanabhan, Max and 8 visitors disagree.
Present Sexists (?) are ignorant and have even less place in society.
On all counts no. Same job in the same industry, women are typically paid less. The statistics are out there for each industry, do I am not going to list them all, but ironically construction, a physically demanding profession, has one of the smallest wage gaps of all industries. The financial sector has one of the largest. The more honest calculations are done by median score to avoid a few exceptionally high earners from skewing the result so, unlike some calculations, people like Trump and Bill Gates do not exaggerate the difference, but there is still a wage gap. It has narrowed substantially in the past few decades, but it still exists.
Feminists fight for equal pay... Is it because men work more dangerous job? Is it because men are more likely to work overtime? Is it because men hold more stressful jobs?
Feminists who are fighting to prevent rape today are no different than those who fought to prevent rape 50 years ago. Feminists fighting for equal pay today are no different from those who fought for it in years past. There are certainly feminists who are exactly as you describe but they are the vocal minority.
Use whatever special words you want, but modern feminist is the exact same as a misandrist. We already have all equal rights.
Then the debate itself is pointless. you used completely the wrong word to make your point. I'm not nit picking. I'm pointing out you are being ridiculously broad with your wording.
Modern day feminists are not the same as the originals.
historybuff, the reason you're being so detail oriented and nitpicking is because you have no real argument at all. Modern day feminists are imbeciles, old ones were cool. Get over the specifics. You know I'm referring to those loud mouthed morons.
Christianity has done much worse things than the kkk Dave.
You are saying all feminists are misandrists. You are accusing a large category of being a small subset. A small group of feminists are misandrists. a small group of humans are ISIS. A small group of Americans are ku kluks Klan. Unless you're a white supremacist who enjoys burning crosses I'd suggest you rethink your argument.
Well, that's what they call themselves.
The KKK call themselves the voice of Christianity, would you agree with that?
No, it's saying ISIS calls themselves ISIS, therefore they are ISIS. Nice try though.
That's like saying ISIS calls themselves human, therefore we're all ISIS.
Ok, that's called a feminist. They are still referring to themselves ad feminist, so they're feminist.
so you mean misandrists, not every person that identifies as a feminist is a misandrists, that's why I asked.
In the case where you incorrectly equate feminism to misandry, then I would agree they have no place in society.
Modern day feminists. The ones that call themselves feminist, but are actually man haters.
which feminist? again, its another broad generalization about a term that has a broad definition. Some ppl who identify as feminists are actually egalitarians, some of them are Anita Sarkesian.