Pretending God exists HOW DARE HE give innocent children cancer.

October 16, 2019, 5:24 am

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The debate "Pretending God exists HOW DARE HE give innocent children cancer." was started by K1VK2DF on October 16, 2019, 5:24 am. 19 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 32 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

K1VK2DF posted 1 argument, diecinueve posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
dinosaurrawr posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

K1VK2DF, Mice, diecinueve, MightyJackalope, Agrumentman and 14 visitors agree.
dinosaurrawr, sajjath, YEET and 29 visitors disagree.

Allirix
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If we go by what the bible said then natural evil is just fallen angels causing terror. That's a form of angelic free will.

3 weeks, 2 days ago
diecinueve
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but he could have created physical laws where there is no suffering

3 weeks, 5 days ago
Nemiroff
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that address the question of moral evil, but what of natural evil, like childhood cancers?

3 weeks, 5 days ago
Allirix
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And omnipotence doesn't give the power to commit logical fallacies. He can't give us genuine free will and the illusion of free will at the same time. If he wanted to give us genuine free will this is what the world would look like

3 weeks, 6 days ago
Allirix
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Holden didn't have power over a driver's free will, and neither does God. He explicitly valued genuine free will over perfect design

3 weeks, 6 days ago
K1VK2DF
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ummm. But seeing as God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent he should be able to prevent such things.

4 weeks ago

It's like saying, "Holden created Holden cars, how dare he allow so many car crashes to happen?" Just because you create something, you cannot 100% prevent freak accidents and if he knew that the rate of people dying from car related accidents, maybe he wouldn't made them. Just be glad that while horrible things happen, we should be glad to be here and have the oppotunity to actually be alive.

1 month ago

i dont believe in god, but i can make a decent argument to counter the problem of evil.

if we assume god wanted to make a world that is discoverable and understandable to us, (meaning a world that works via physics and not magic), then cancer is ineviable.

cancer is caused by gene mutations, which is caused by repeated cell division. cell division is a basis of biology. considering how small the number of people afflicted with these childhood cancer, it seems the system was optimized as good as possible. sure this is a weak argument to the *individuals* suffering from illnesses and their families... but in the grand scheme they are the exception not the rule. most people live good healthy lives, and the fact that reality is understandable to us is a good thing, imo.

1 month, 1 week ago
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