Priests should not be forced to marry gay couples

February 19, 2017, 7:16 am

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The debate "Priests should not be forced to marry gay couples" was started by Your_dad on February 19, 2017, 7:16 am. 12 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 5 people are on the disagree side. People are starting to choose their side. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

thereal posted 9 arguments to the agreers part.


Your_dad, Blue_ray, thereal, Matthew_Daniel, Christian, UnderdogMike, Ematio, human, makson and 3 visitors agree.
ProfDoke, Breeanna104 and 3 visitors disagree.

You forgot the mic drop at the end of that @psychdave....I've seen those same stories floating around and was about to do the fact checking, but @historybuff and @psychdave, you guys beat me to it.

2 years, 6 months ago

So I found the reason no one else reported on the first link. The site makes fake news. You first link is a fake story by a fake news site.

For those keeping score at home, that means you have 2 fake articles, 1 about someone being discriminated against (and you think it supports the discrimination), and 1 that is a for profit business discriminating against gay people. Of your 4 links, only 1 is in any way real and connected to the topic, and it is not really a priest being forced to perform marriages so much as a business owner not being allowed to discriminate by sexual orientation.

2 years, 6 months ago

so all you managed to find was fake news, a priest who wanted to perform gay marriage, and for profit businesses that are descriminating against people.

congratulations, you're an idiot.

2 years, 6 months ago
PsychDave
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He is not running a church. If it were a nonprofit chapel, he would have a legal leg to stand on, but he can't justify discrimination based on his religion in a for profit business. That is the law.

2 years, 6 months ago

lol your first link is hilarious. it is a fake news site. take a look at their most recent headline. http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/donald-trump-is-addicted-to-penis-enlargement-pills-claims-his-ex-wife/

your second example, as they've said, is a for profit business. this means they are required to obey state and federal regulations. this issue isn't that a priest refused to marry people. it is that a for profit business refused to serve people based on their sexual orientation, and that is a crime.

the third link is a priest sueing the church for them trying to stop him from performing gay marriages. it is the exact opposite of what you are trying to argue.

the 4th link is pretty much the same as the 2nd. a for profit business refused to offer their services based on sexual orientation. that is illegal.

2 years, 6 months ago
PsychDave
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Yes, it is a link about the church discriminating against a priest for being gay. How do you think that helps your case that priests should be able to discriminate against gay people? My literacy skills are fine, yours apparently not so much.

2 years, 6 months ago
Nemiroff
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ministers are allowed to own private businesses. those businesses cannot discriminate.

2 years, 6 months ago

I would, however, support a Rabbi refusing to marry a Jew to a non- Jew because by Jewish law, Jews are not allowed to marry gentiles.

2 years, 6 months ago

In terms of interracial marriage, the Bible does not prohibit it so therefore it has no religious basis to support. Being against gay marriage does. Can your brain not comprehend the difference?

2 years, 6 months ago

The fourth is a RELIGIOUS MINISTER refusing to marry 2 fags. It is a religious business, not a f***ing stripclub so obviously it is going to run his religious business based on RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES. Your low intellect is worrying.

2 years, 6 months ago

The third link is about a priest who has been revoked of his right to officiate at the church because he had a gay "marriage". Now he is suing the churche for following the bible. I think you should learn to read.

2 years, 6 months ago

There are no pop ups on the second link whatsoever. Either you are lying, or your phone is f***ed.

2 years, 6 months ago
PsychDave
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Managed to copy the name to do some fact checking on your second link before a pop-up blocked it.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jul/16/blog-posting/did-vermont-pastor-get-sentenced-prison-refusing-m/

It is a load of crap published by a fake news outlet.

2 years, 6 months ago
PsychDave
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The first one I can't find any information beyond that single article, making fact checking impossible.

Second link I can't read through the popups saying I've won a jackpot and trying to infect my phone with malware. Makes it hard to look into.

The third one deals with a priest suing the church for discriminating against him. You need to do better vetting of your references to make sure they actually agre with you.

The fourth is a for profit business, not a church. Therefore they are not allowed to discriminate based on race, sex, or sexual orientation. Would you support them if they said they refused to perform interracial marriages?

2 years, 6 months ago
neveralone
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just a question. can they not do that besides maybe the gov. one? the right to refuse service? sure it's rude but it's their right...right?

2 years, 6 months ago

I wish i could meet some of the priests who DO support gay marriage, then i could educate them on the bible and humiliate them in the process.

2 years, 6 months ago

Historybuff, if you got off your stupid, uneducated liberal a** and actually googled it, you wouldve found them straight away.

2 years, 6 months ago

A Christian minister who owns a Texan wedding chapel was told he had to either perform same-sex weddings or face jail time and up to a $10,000 fine http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/texas-minister-faces-jail-time-after-refusing-to-marry-gay-cousins/

Christian Pastor In Vermont Sentenced To One Year In Prison After Refusing To Marry Gay couple http://nbc.com.co/christian-pastor-in-vermont-sentenced-to-one-year-in-prison-after-refusing-to-marry-gay-couple/

First priest to marry same-sex partner sues church for discrimination https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/16/canon-jeremy-pemberton-first-priest-marry-same-sex-partner-sues-church-of-england

City threatens to arrest ministers who refuse to perform same-sex weddings https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/20/city-threatens-to-arrest-ministers-who-refuse-to-perform-same-sex-weddings.amp.html

2 years, 6 months ago

I have yet to see this ever happen. I've seen government officials refuse to sign the marriage certificates, florists refuse to sell flowers and bakers refuse to make cakes, but have never heard of a priest being sued for not marrying someone.

2 years, 6 months ago

if there are so many then provide some.

2 years, 6 months ago
thereal
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There are many examples where priests have been sued for saying no.

2 years, 6 months ago

and you can totally find an example of someone being forced to do so?

2 years, 6 months ago

if religion doesnt allow then it shouldnt .

2 years, 6 months ago
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