Pro Abortion or no

November 20, 2015, 7:20 pm

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The debate "Pro Abortion or no" was started by DannyknowsItAll on November 20, 2015, 7:20 pm. By the way, DannyknowsItAll is disagreeing with this statement. 33 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 28 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

omactivate posted 4 arguments, MylifeisaJoke posted 3 arguments, historybuff posted 2 arguments, PsychDave posted 2 arguments, AngryBlogger posted 1 argument, Monster posted 6 arguments to the agreers part.
DannyknowsItAll posted 4 arguments, Alex posted 12 arguments to the disagreers part.

MylifeisaJoke, Sosocratese, historybuff, omactivate, PsychDave, WaspToxin, keponefactory, xbulletwithbutterflywingsx, debaterjr, Zachfive, AngryBlogger, rob5998, MrAltitude, Monster, progressive, M, starsnclovers, NaggingNut and 15 visitors agree.
DannyknowsItAll, thekid, Alex, lawyer_to_be, lexham, scotthansonMC, jjrocks1738, Marty, SwaggerPoptart, blakelovesjesus and 18 visitors disagree.

Monster
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Do a simple Google search Alex. A fetus is not a life. It is a potential life yes but when it is aborted it could honestly give a shit because it doesn't even have consciousness

3 years, 7 months ago
PsychDave
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So you feel that you are more qualified to set laws than those who have spent their entire professional lives studying the law? Those judges are basing their decision on the opinions of experts and precedent. The experts would be medical doctors and scientists. In what way are you more qualified than all of these people put together? For that matter, in what way are priests more qualified than legal and medical experts to define the law as it relates to medicine?

3 years, 7 months ago

and who is 5 judges in Washington to define what life is, and marraige.

3 years, 7 months ago

Monster I think you are combining human life with any life. your argument should go "a fetus is life, but not human life, since it is only a cluster of cells, to be human it must have a brain, or beating heart"
that makes more sence. in fact a fetus at the time of abortion has a heart and it's brain foundation makes up 45% of its body weight.

3 years, 7 months ago
Monster
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Hold on who are you to even define what is alive? Tell me what is your definition of life? Something with a heartbeat and lungs? Well cells have neither of those. Cells move throughout our body through chemical reactions. Even if you wanted to define life as something with a functioning heart and lungs a premature fetus has neither of those.

3 years, 7 months ago

Monster
you are a clump of cells. are you alive?

3 years, 7 months ago

are cells alive? anyone will tell you yes, you say no. it seems you know very little about biology if you think cells are not alive.

3 years, 7 months ago
Monster
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A clump of cells is not a child

3 years, 7 months ago
Monster
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Is a clump of cells a human? No. Also cells aren't even alive to begin with, the cells in your body function by chemical reaction. Nor because they're alive.

3 years, 7 months ago

right, because a bundle of cells isn't alive.

3 years, 7 months ago
Monster
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Shut up with your religious bullshit. A fetus is a bundle of cells. Granted not all abortions happen in early stages before its even a fetus, but those that don't even still aren't killing anything that is alive.

3 years, 7 months ago
Monster
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Dude the bible has a passage about killing the child of an unfaithful woman.

3 years, 7 months ago
progressive
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There's a passage in the old testament where God kills babies.

3 years, 7 months ago

should be a choice for many reasons but to make this short and sweet, I am simply going to say it's her body and she can does what she wants as long as it is legal. Women shouldn't have to be treated like slaves and forced to carry a child for 9 months. Some of which have diseases and stuff like rape babies where most come out negative in some way and wished their lives didn't exist. Also it would create such black markets and be more expensive I
to deem illegal and outright ban. The poor babies and humans to be would suffer through more pain than they do already in the abortion processes. Oh and it's the USA, a country of freedom and liberty and no one should have this eight to get an abortion suppressed from them. There is more reasons to keep it pro choice than pro life and why is it people who are against abortion are people you'd never want to f*** in the first place?

3 years, 8 months ago

DannyknowsitAll and Alex, how do you justify that a single cell constitutes a human? An embryo certainly has the potential for human life, but at this point with our current cloning technology so does a few skin cells. Does that mean every time you exfoliate you are committing murder? The potential for life is not life itself.

Alex you again say that life starts at conception but don't justify why you believe that. You claim that at the moment of conception it is a separate being, not part of the mother, but it cannot survive separated from the mother, so how do you back up that statement? You are again stating your beliefs without actually making an argument for them.

3 years, 8 months ago
DannyknowsItAll
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A sleeping soul is killed in a proper abortion...

3 years, 9 months ago

no babies die in proper abortions. groups of cells without a functioning brain are aborted.

3 years, 9 months ago

1.2 million babies die a year from abortions.

3 years, 9 months ago
DannyknowsItAll
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Abortion has been practiced since the beginning.. nowhere in the bible does it say anything about abortion, but it does say that God knows you before you've entered the womb and the fact killing is wrong.. abortion is no more a sin than lying, all can be forgiven with faith.

3 years, 9 months ago

as we have repeatedly told you. they are not babies. they are not a human life. they are incapable of life on their own. they do not a
have a functional brain. your religion tells you that 2 cells make a person. science tells you it does not.

3 years, 9 months ago

I'm opposed to it because I believe killing is wrong. but go ahead kill, I don't want my religion to mess up the killing of babies.

3 years, 9 months ago

a human is made at the moment of conception. it is a seperate being, not part of the mother. it is life. it is human. the two cells together are human life. if an appendix is taken out it is good because it's not the whole human and does not kill it.

3 years, 9 months ago

Alex, you have lost this argument on every debate we have had it on. You are opposed to abortion for religious reasons and because you believe that it is a human life from the moment the egg is fertilized. We feel that your religion has no right to dictate what other people can do and that life does not start until the fetus is capable of life, not just the potential for life.

You equate living cells to life, but people have their appendix out all the time and it is a bundle of living cells. Should they be charged with murder?

You argue that being unconscious is the same as not having any brain function, heart beat or the ability to live on your own. This is obviously a flawed argument.

You argue that abortion is murder, but the closest comparable action is pulling the plug on someone since in both cases they are incapable of life on their own. This is also not murder.

For you to successfully argue your position you would first have to justify why you believe life starts at the moment of conception, which you have not done.

3 years, 9 months ago

Those people have started living and have used their functioning brain. The egg had not lived at all (as in brain activity), so it won't lose their life, because by definition they do not have one yet.

3 years, 9 months ago

People nocked unconscious are not conscious either, so I guess they art living.

3 years, 9 months ago

unconsious

3 years, 9 months ago
MylifeisaJoke
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The term are not quite conscious is quite interesting, so you mean they are conscious or unconscious?
Have you seen any pictures of abortion process, are those tiny limbs are not part of a human?
On the other hand women should be responsible for their action.

3 years, 9 months ago

See, there is this thing called science and it has shown us that the fetus and embryo aren't quite conscious

3 years, 9 months ago
MylifeisaJoke
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You arguing from the point of the stage of the development of the fertilized egg, what if the baby is becoming an embryo and then a fetus or even be conscious to the outside environment

3 years, 9 months ago

To Alex because it is unethical

3 years, 9 months ago

It's not murder if you are not living

3 years, 9 months ago

you do relive the difference between murder and accidental death right?

3 years, 9 months ago

but it's not functional. Tons of eggs are fertilized and don't make it. An abortion would just be another one of those that didn't make it. Its brain is no more developed than the eggs.

3 years, 9 months ago

oh, I forgot cells are not living.

3 years, 9 months ago

and a living one. A fetus us a non-functional cluster of cells

3 years, 9 months ago

historybuff you are a cluster of cells. just a bigger, more developed one.

3 years, 9 months ago

no one is talking about killing humans. we're talking about aborting a cluster of cells. you have no right to tell a woman what to do with her body.

3 years, 9 months ago

because its ok to let a people kill humans. none of my business if babies are dying. let's not force people to not kill.

anyway mylifeisajoke
why are you against abortion?

3 years, 9 months ago

luckily it has nothing to do with you. it is a woman's choice. no one is going to force her either way.

3 years, 9 months ago
DannyknowsItAll
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Birth it and put him or her on adoption, I just can't support abortion myself...

3 years, 9 months ago

The only reason that I would pro-abortion is that when the baby is the product of rape.

3 years, 9 months ago
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