The debate "Pro-choice and pro-abortion are essentially the same thing." was started by
June 20, 2018, 4:36 am.
6 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 10 people are on the disagree side.
People are starting to choose their side.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
Drakgo, RealCaffNasty and 4 visitors agree.
mlowe, Andji and 8 visitors disagree.
nah thank you. I tried to keep this non partisan and just defining based on semantics so this brain storming is something I can use for many subjects. it was fun.
Ah, thanks nemiroff. Needed to clear it up. I just found remarkable similarities between the 2 and made the conclusion that they were essentially the same thing. Again, thanks for clearing it up.
yeah, I get what your saying. I cant say this explanation is definitive, but it I hope it will be a fair on the fly semantics philosophy. I really do like my drug analogy, no one claims to be "prodrugs" they are pro legalization, which is exactly your definition of pro choice (same thing really).
if you are pro democracy, your not pro the choice of democracy, you practice democracy, or seek to practice democracy. likewise, pro drugs or pro abortion are such extreme positions that noone would actually identify with them (maybe the drugs for some addicts). so the definition is just linked to the more reasonable position of pro choice.
in a situation where abortion rights are under attack and some states have 1 or 0 clinics, the 2 groups will act similarly. but once the choice is not under attack, the difference may become clear. a pro something person would advocate or mandate the thing he supports, like putting cocaine back into coca cola or encouraging teen or working woman abortions. pro choice advocate it to be a decision for the women with input from her doctor. they dont push for it should be taken.
relatives pushing it with self interest I hope will not be used as an example against this since their intentions have nothing to do with truth or ideology, just selfishness.
They're not the exact same. I was debating a "pro-choicer" and we were discussing this specific topic. He said they are nothing alike. I searched the definitions and I got this:
pro-abortion, adjective, , in favor of availability of medically induced abortion as means of ending pregnancy.
pro-choice, adjective, pr??CHois, advocating legalized abortion.
Ah ok. What do you think of the definitions for each?
its like the phrase "I disagee with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it".
no one wants to promote the use of abortion. it's a heavy medical procedure with huge consequences. I think it can only be done 2 or 3 times before the women risks infertility. what pro choice people are for is the choice to choose abortion, even tho most pro choice people would probably not choose abortion for themselves (thus not pro abortion for themselves)
much like a pro legalization person is not necessarily pro drugs. he may be just pro the choice to do drugs if one chooses to. thus not peo drugs, but pro choice
their on diff. sides of the spectrum... how can they be the same? besides trying to give someone rights/freedoms which is a bit vague at best.