Reddcoin is doing numbers

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April 19, 2018, 1:27 pm

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The debate "Reddcoin is doing numbers" was started by an anonymous person on April 19, 2018, 1:27 pm. 8 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 24 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

Najam1 posted 4 arguments, Gorgon posted 17 arguments to the agreers part.
Nemiroff posted 2 arguments to the disagreers part.

Keto and 7 visitors agree.
Gorgon, historybuff, theoneandonlyDan and 21 visitors disagree.

And again, any abuse of the law by some small proportion of the homosexual demographic doesn't prove homosexuality wrong, it proves law abusable. Law being abusable has been well established for all of human history.
And straight men have used the power of the law to gain power over women. So again, I ask you, if some men using the law to rape other men means homosexuality is wrong, does not some men using the law to rape women make heterosexuality wrong?

Jesus, you have a dark mind, dude, and a lot of weird sexual hangups. I have no idea if you were maybe abused sexually by a man, and if you were, you have all the sympathy I can provide you, but you should recognize that any such crime is wrong because of consent, not homosexuality.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Gorgon
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So men can't lawfully marry eachother? You realize you can't argue against homosexuality in these grounds while arguing the legal system can be and is abused. The former statement assumes law can do no wrong.
Do you mean morally can't marry eachother? On what grounds? What consequences cause human misery or victimization if gay people marry?

If you're going to assert "spiritual destruction," then you're asserting threat without proof. You can't attribute immortality to someone who causes destruction unknowingly. You just can't. If you want to assert your deity is perfectly moral, then he must recognize this, and act against those evil spirits on BEHALF of homosexuals.

But if you're correct, we should see some unknown agent acting on the hormonal system of gay people. We see no such thing.

Do you attribute human beings with having one soul? If so, what say you of split brain patient case studies, where people with disconnected brain hemispheres not only act as two individuals working in one body, (one mute, the other in control of one side of the body,) and, indeed, having different religious convictions in some cases? What of the man who had one brain hemisphere that was atheist, the other theist?

As far as your suggested experiment, of forcing sexual encounters between homosexual people and the opposite sex, such an experiment would require some pretty brave volunteers, since normally, a homosexual man, for example, being forced to engage in intercourse with a woman, is what we call "a rape victim."

But yes, such experiments have been done, and indeed, the result is what anyone who isn't a bigot would expect: gay men don't enjoy sexual intercourse with women, and lesbians don't enjoy sexual intercourse with men.
If they did, gay conversion camps would be actually successful.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Najam1
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Experimenting on people is very bad.
Look at what was done to even babies during the history of mankind.

https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/kings-queens/emperor-frankenstein-the-truth-behind-frederick-ii-of-sicilys-sadistic-science-experiments/

I already know people who are advocating and allying with the claim of being gay, but I wouldn't go further than subjecting such a one to intereacting momentarily with members of the opposite sex, who are only attracted to the opposite sex.
It's comedic, entertaining, informative, and beneficial for all of the participants.
Nobody can make up such scenarios.

5 months, 2 weeks ago

The human body is a vessel. Not all spirits that traverse your own are there to do you harm. Let's equate spirits to viruses. They can all get in, but the beneficial are not fought, they are supported by your own body, and permitted to stay there.
Two men manifesting themselves as lifetime eternal companions wreak more havoc in spirit world than AIDS has destroyed immune systems.
If only you accept that spirits come in both sexes.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Najam1
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Men cannot lawfully marry each other, and it's the actual felons themselves who proclaim other individual humans as lifetime felons.
Why do they do it?
It's a master strategic move to be able to do everything you and your allies want to do, anyone who voices or indicates opposition is the one labeled a villainous felon for life, who must only be shot, fought, killed, prevented from working, or even robbed by anyone, only while unarmed.
A true felon is a 100% ally of defending themselves, but others who share the same Earth may not defend their life or their own property.
Pure genius.

5 months, 2 weeks ago

Bringing this back to homosexuality for a moment, I know someone who was raised by two married gay men. The guy grew up to be straight, so that rather contradicts any notion gay people raise children to be gay. All around, you're theses about gay people are born from stereotypes just as appalling and ridiculous and inaccurate as any ethnic stereotype.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Gorgon
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I'm going to have to refer you to Illusion of External Agency. It's a common cognitive bias, (any sane person you meet will occasionally fall prey to it, so don't confuse this with me calling you deluded, ) wherein the human mind is more likely to conclude that another human being or otherwise intelligent force is responsible for organizing events that have an emotional impact on us.
As well as that, I'm going to refer you to Pareidolia and the thought experiment known as "The Library of Babel."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_external_agency
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
https://libraryofbabel.info/

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Najam1
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It's a freemason game.
There are boys raised in USA that are never taught reality from an older male they can trust.
Unless your father, older brother, uncle, grandfather is well connected or has a job as false god police, you are prey for both sides of a huge conspiracy. The fools who aren't police will attack one because one isn't a police, and the police themselves attack because one isn't a mason and doesn't know what that is. It gets even worse for one who suddenly discovers that they also play a game called felon for life in order to shoot unarmed people.

https://youtu.be/hwRPeRbMc-I

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Najam1
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America is in on it.
Without that game, the whole house of cards falls.
They had no choice but to cease playing the game against all the women that prostitute.
Of course, they forgave them and said the felony game is over for them.
All the while they have male victims, easily taunted and provoked into fighting a false god police, who then can easily tag violent felon for life.
Home of the cowards has a tremendous problem with anyone who fights fair.
That's why the shooters shoot only where nobody can shoot back.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Gorgon
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Chicago corrupting the system by refusing to seal people's records is *possible,* but irrelevant. You tried to generalize to ALL OF AMERICA and that's blatantly dishonest. I know someone who had a felony on record that was sealed, so you might as well tell me water isn't wet.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Najam1
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It works like that in your dreams. It doesn't even work that way you described in heaven itself. If one wanted to play shoot em up in heaven, you could because folks can't die or sit in hospitals there.
Anyways, if people weren't exploiting guns and playing the lifetime felony game, Chicago couldn't exist as the infamous Chiraq. After they tag, and punish the individual, they refuse to forgive him or trust him. The people willing to forgive and trust him actually never pay police or state agencies for permission to have guns, although some of them pay to have liquor establishments.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Gorgon
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That's judging by the article you cited, anyhow. I could be missing case details.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Gorgon
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As for this other dude, looks like he had a warrant for his arrest, so of course he got chased. Even murder in the third decree is serious, so of course he's in bigger trouble. This is not a self defense case.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Gorgon
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You're going to have a hard time convincing me that felony is a permanent label when it's not. It just isn't. If you go before a court, and enough people vouch for you, your record is sealed and you can own guns again, and are no longer considered a felon.

5 months, 2 weeks ago
Najam1
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They play games with the words felony for life so a man can only be trusted with guns by robbers and murderers. It's the ultimate psyop by declaring a man an enemy to everyone on the entire planet until he dies, with no possibility of redemption or forgiveness outside a presidential or gubernatorial pardon.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Najam1
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http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180214/murder-charge-filed-in-death-of-chicago-police-commander

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Gorgon
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No idea who Shamari Leggett is, and can't find information on them, so I can't comment on that.
Anyhow, most people distrust the police, so I'm not sure where you get this "false good," idea.
I still have no idea how gay people tie into this.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Najam1
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They exploit the words felon and felony in order to pit one person they already punished against the entire world until the person dies. It's designed so that the person can never make friends again, unless they befriend Trump himself and issues a pardon, there is no forgiveness for life. It's an intricate conspiracy that the false god police participate in. They attack only poor folk and provoke the person to fight back, just so they can label the person a felon for life who has to make friends with the President or governor in order to be forgiven. Even if someone murdered twenty years ago, why must they be forced to face strangers with abilities to continue the punishment and never forgive one whom they never met or had encounters with?
This is why you have Shamari Leggett scenarios. The people punished him completely unwilling to forgive or trust him ever again, but alas the drug-dealers and gunrunners are always willing to forgive; or kill you if they don't trust you.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Gorgon
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In fact, it sounds like you live in the deep South. Where I am, we only have police racism issues because the KKK got exported from other states, and trust me, no one turns their back on them here.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Gorgon
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You realize felonies are usually something you can have sealed, right?
We don't worship this stuff. I spend next to no time thinking about race or crimes. Where do you get this stuff? I mean that honestly. It sounds like you live in a drug ridden neighborhood or something?

5 months, 3 weeks ago

No.
You don't understand.
In America people worship the words felony and black.
From slapping a police officer to murder, America plays a game that says you are the enemy to the entire world, and may never be forgiven anywhere in the world unless you die or get a presidential pardon.
See, they are playing word games and basically forcing humans to be felons and blacks so they can be killed while disarmed and disadvantaged. America is notorious for cowards who only shoot folks in the back, or unarmed folks. America won't have enough unarmed folks to shoot if they stop claiming people are blacks and felons for life. That's why people can't have prizes and shooting competitions, they can only shoot and rob each other with guns because America doesn't forgive, but Allah does.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Gorgon
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As for murder, you'd be surprised. A relative of mine only spent 14 years in jail, and only so many because a specific person campaigned very hard to keep him there, and he went free because they didn't show up to court one day when whether or not he should go free was being reviewed.
And honestly, he belonged there. I'd say the system was too lax, given some of the insane things he's done.

And furthermore, if we're talking philosophically instead of about legality, I'd say it's not on either government or a good to decide whose forgiven, it's the person slighted. Allah can't forgive you for murder, only the person who you murdered can, because you're accountable you them as you harmed them.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Gorgon
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The American legal system is largely based on the principle of preventative measures. For example, if you assault someone in public, the courts might decide that you have to do some prison time, (this is a combination of punishment to dissuade crimes in the first place, and gives you time to think on what you did wrong,) community service, (teaches responsibility, cleans up the streets, gets rid of hazardous materials in ditches like heroine needles and cigarrette butts,) take anger management therapy, and that, for a few years, you must be monitored by an officer to make sure you are not continuing to be a danger to your fellow human being.
If you abide by the court orders, and the psychological professionals who treat you say the threat you pose is vastly diminished, you get to return to normal society, and possibly your records may be sealed. A sealed record is a record of a crime that, unlike a normal criminal record, can't be accessed except under special conditions, and only then by order of the courts. Usually these records are only unsealed if you are charged with another crime.

So no, the American system of justice is not only not "unforgivong," it's hard to even say it's really vengeful. Generally acts of vengeance by government personnel are supposed to be, if proper policy is followed, itself a crime. (For example, police brutality is considered a crime.)

Not defending the system, but give it credit, it's not "unforgiving."

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Najam1
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There's a two sided tug of war. My Islamic teachers practically want me to advocate and enforce the code and conduct of heaven on Earth. The same people who will tell me homosexuals must be put to death manage to sell fine and cheap wine. Dealing with folks who believe all homosexuals are damned beyond forgiveness; is more difficult because I have the duty of telling the man who actually believes that, otherwise.
In America, people are damned beyond forgiveness and part of a system which doesn't forgive until the one dies.
Allah forgives even murder, but America only has presidential pardons for the very few and very privileged.
Rejecting all members of the opposite sex is a serious offense, but so is murder.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Gorgon
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I find it ironic you belong to am iconoclastic religion, one whose members have threatened the destruction of the Pyramids, while you also accuse atheists of inability to create.

Let's see who else was as atheist who contributed to mankind... well, Rosalind Franklin's data was stolen by Francis and Crick, and his how we know today that DNA has a double helix structure. Information that, by the way, has allowed us to understand and combat illness like never before.

Sakharov was an atheist from Russia who championed civil rights. I'm certain you agree that that's an endeavor that improves mankind's well being today, yes?

This whole "atheists are immoral" shtick? Drop it. Every statistic is against you, from religious people being overrepresented in new prison inmates, (specifying new because that means evangelists haven't gotten to them,) to the vastly more warlike tendencies of countries dominated by religious demographics.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Gorgon
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if not for Turing, a homosexual atheist, you'd not have a computer, Najam1.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Najam1
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If you are willing to grant absolutes you can easily figure the equation.
Ungodly destroys, never creates.
Godly creates, never curses.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Nemiroff
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but you said anyone who creates is automatically godly.

they weren't godly to begin with until they created the text against god.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Najam1
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Ungodliness negates creativity whereas one would lack morale to join the Almighty in making additions and improvement involving mankind.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Nemiroff
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what of someone who creates a book against god?

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Najam1
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Ungodly men create nothing, they simply mock those of us who do, but at a lesser degree than they mock the Almighty one himself.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Gorgon
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Ah. So do you roll with Peter Popoff? Do you not roll with arguably moral but ungodly men such as, for example, Elon Musk?

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Najam1
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You think my alliance is limited to Muslims?
Boy, I roll with all godly folks.
I consider anyone who creates cryptocurrency, books, websites amongst the godly.
Crypticons will steal from anyone, they would even steal a tip in Reddcoin off the church's offering plate if they could.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Gorgon
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I didn't say I approve of them, and I think by and large we agree on this. I'm not sure that cryptocons are specifically targeting Muslims, as you *seem* to suggest?

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Najam1
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Crypticons exist, but they are our enemies as well as yours.

5 months, 3 weeks ago

Not surprised. Crypto market is full of corruption. I'm certain that ox is going to get gored sooner or later. Best not to invest in the meantime. That's my take, at least.

5 months, 3 weeks ago
Najam1
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Its logo of a Reddcoin with the tongue sticking out. It has wit on the tip. Yesterday someone tipped a man some Reddcoin for him not to post something he disagreed with.

6 months ago

what's the difference with this coin from the others?

6 months ago
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