The debate "Religion is not the Problem. Its man. Even if there were no Religion. There would still be Problems" was started by
April 29, 2016, 4:58 pm.
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How do you propose we stop a belief?
Secondly, if you can't blame the person in the mirror first there will always be hate. Mankind has free will, we can act against scripture to still generate hate. If it's not religion it's something else and, if it's not something else it's something completely different. There was hate before there was religion. You can't deny that so, we begin to realize that it's not religion, it's man.
what does that mean?
If Neimroff or TWZ, does not finish iff historybuff. I will.
I have never said that religion is the source of all hate. but it is a considerable reason to hate. just because religion it not the ultimate source of the problem, it is still a problem. you can't really do anything about human nature. but you can do things about religion.
also asia, think warring era Japan and pre unification china.
hate is universal and is not limited in its sources.
middle ages Europe was uniform in religion and race, yet it was extremely violent and full of hate. the same goes for tribal societies in africa, mid east, and native Americans pre colonization (religions may be slightly varied among native Americans but that's nuance)
religion is another excuse to hate, it makes hate easier, but it is not the ultimate source. Humans are.
So you agree that people created hate, correct? It wasn't relgion, and the neanderthals in Europe who didn't have region still hated? The Russians being primarily atheist still posses the ability to hate? It's not relgions it's people.
people created religion. religion creates divisions (ie Christian vs Muslim). divisions cause fear and hate.
Buff, you have said on many occasions religion is created by man, so does religion create hate or did people?
-A nuclear weapon is built for one purpose. That purpose is destruction. Do you know what the purpose of Christainity is? Peace, love, and prosperity.
-I will say this once more. Human's lust for power, greed, and control causes war and destruction. Religion does not.
because the Pope is "infallible". he speaks directly for god. he can't be wrong. when the Pope says God wills, it is directly from the mouth of God, according to Catholics.
and religion doesn't have to tell people to do bad things, to be a bad thing. a nuclear weapon doesn't tell anyone to detonate it. it is just a tool. but that tool is easily used for evil. religion is also a tool that is very easily misused. you can say that men are the problem, but they are religious men. and they are using religion to commit terrible crimes.
Did the religion say go out and kill people, or did people say that? My point is proven. Religion does not say go out and kill people. Christainity says don't kill people. Again, Christainity does not say murder. It says do not murder. It is the people's lust for power and control that cause problem's, nor religion or Christainity. Why can't you get that?
so it wasnt for religion that the Pope of Rome called for crusades against the infidels? it wasn't for religion that the Spanish Inquisition killed large numbers of people? it wasn't for religion that witches were burned as brides of Satan? religion has been the cause of many terrible crimes throughout history.
-It is greed and the lust for power that causes problems, not religion. The amount of wars caused be greed outnumber the amount of wars caused by religion 75-1. Christainity tenets explain do not murder, share your bread with the less fortunate not cause war and murder. Whoever disagrees with this is ignorant and is biased.
you obviously have a personal issue with religion but religion is definitely not the problem. people are. there greed for power, money, and more. there ego. even society's can be the same way. which is made of ppl.
religion only changes because it is forced to. it fights, kicks and screams (and burns people) to avoid changing.
Religion definitely changes over time.
And people still hate
politics changes over the years, religion does not. What scares me is the fact that people follow words from a time when women were considered possessions and people of other faiths were persecuted.
"religion is the reason for the hate." People are definitely the reason for hate. You can look at the Bonobo monkeys who don't wage war and constantly love one another. Hate is learned, so is war.
I never said it was the only reason for hate. but it is a big one.
Buff, you really think religion is the reason for hate? why do atheist hate then?
From what I know so far. The bible never mentions that homosexuals can't help how they feel. Only what they do and you can do what you want but if your gonna get into that religion makes no sense to me for it to be continued
Your misunderstood. When your a christian. A real one. It requires sacrifice. So basically God doesn't care that your homosexual. He cares if you live the lifestyle. When your a Christian your not living to do as you please. Your living for God. Your not only sacraficing how you feel but a ton of things. God doesn't hate homosexuals. He doesn't hate anybody. Just when you become a Christian or whatever. Your basically saying 'I don't matter'. God does. Its nothing personal. Nobodies after homosexuals. Only the ignorant 'Christians'. Honestly no real christian should hate you for something you can't help. The lifestyle is what matters. A christian lifestyle requires sacrafice. You have to sacrafice things you might enjoy. Like sex before marriage, sex with the sane gender, witchcraft, your time, your money, a lot of the things to improve your relationship with God and he will make you happy but not in the way you'd like maybe. Its not for everyone and there's even religions who twist the bible so they can do what they want. Its whatever but trust me its not anything horrible. My friends a christian and she's explained a lot to me about this.
people created religion so it was humans fault in the first place. but nowadays people should know better than what religion tells them to do. Some religions tell you that being gay is a sin, people should know better than that, that being gay isn't something g that can be helped. Religion is hypocritical.
except they hate your religion because of their religion. so no. religion is the reason for the hate.
In my religion buff, people are the reason for hate.
I didn't say God was the reason for hate. I said religion was. whether or not God wants people to hate each other over religion, they do. they kill each other pretty much every day because of it.
No, people are the reason for hate not G-d
all religions are responsible for horrible things. conflicts for no other reason than because "God wills it". pretending that religion is blameless is just childish.
Everything has a reason to create conflict over. I don't like how people blame Religion on everything. When the real truth is man was the one who messed with Religion the wrong way. There were bad guys behind the bible. That's it. A lot of big religions don't condone many things that happened anyway.
we don't need religion to fight. but it certainly gives us more reason to fight.
Correct it doesn't take religion to create conflict