Renewable energy sources ought to be a major priority

December 4, 2015, 10:33 pm

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The debate "Renewable energy sources ought to be a major priority" was started by Sosocratese on December 4, 2015, 10:33 pm. 29 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 1 person is on the disagree side. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

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Sosocratese
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Well, liking to blame things on Obama is a pretty poor argument.... And with new exploration of the tar Sands not happening due to low oil prices and high cost of extraction I don't know see you having much of an argument there. The Arab nations can simply get cheaper oil than us because we have to get it off shore, from shale, or from the oil Sands.

4 years ago

the goverment can and should be involved it this renewable energy, but should play a small part in it, and not be dictating anything. I think the us would be better getting oil from Canada (our friend) then the middle east (we are fighting them in a war currently) Obama thinks differently, denied the pipeline and I blame him for it. plus I like to blame things on Obama.

4 years ago
Sosocratese
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Research has shown that the Keystone XL pipeline would have had very little economic impact and very little impact on our reliance on foreign oil due to the expenditure of getting the tar-sands oil out of the ground. On the same note, the environmental impact of the Keystone XL pipeline were exaggerated. Overall, it was more likely than not a net-neutral decision with largely only symbolic significance.

No one is saying Government should control the renewable energy industry. It's not an argument anyone is making. The argument I'm making is that government should invest into research and subsidize emerging companies in the field (like they did and still do for the oil industry). Subsidizing renewable energy companies helps them offset cost of research and allows them to have more capital for faster expansion and cheaper product lines. This allows them to be more competitive on the global market as well. Being first in any tech industry is key.

Government is the perfect vehicle to deliver new research into the field as they can innovate without worrying about deadlines or profitability restrictions (companies cut and scale R&D depending on profits, government can operate from a given budget rather than quarterly reports). This puts government research at a distinct advantage. It also means that tech coming from this research can be made available to private companies for little or no cost, unlike expensive patents and licensing procedures which can keep new tech from coming to market if those patents are purchased and controlled by opposing interests (oil companies).

A few side notes:
Obama didn't create our dependence on foreign oil and has helped reduce it in his own way by championing renewables.
Bush opened up a lot of oil and natural gas exploration which helped us during the high oil prices of the early 2000's and put a lot of pressure on the Arab nations
---since then however, the Arab nations have released a lot of their reserves which decimated the market value of oil and has made it new oil exploration financially impossible. It's one of the main reasons why American companies are willing to go open new oil fields.

While blaming Obama is a nice way to get a political stab in, it doesn't reflect the complexity of the situation.

4 years ago

and anything the us cam do to get ahead of chins we should. this will help the us get out of debt.

4 years ago

I think global warming is not man made, or very, very little man made, but I see a need for renewable energy. you can thank Obama for us buying oil from the middle east. apparently a pipeline of oil from Canada isn't as good a shipping oil from the middle easy across an ocean. Canada sold there oil to China so we have no choice.

what I don't want is the goverment taking control of all resources and controlling all the renewable resource programs. the goverment should be as small as possible when companies research these resources.

renewable resources are good because
1. fossil fuels are running out
2. the middle easy is where we get our oil, not a good place to do business. (thanks Obama)
3. pollution will go down, and the world will be healthier and cleaner.
4. big long term gain, spend money now creating a renewable resource, and later when the renewable resource is renewing itself we don't have to spend money.

4 years ago

Regardless of whether or not you believe in man contributes to climate change, you ought to be for investing and championing renewable energy sources.

The US' geopolitical influence is diminished by our dependence on the fossil fuel trade. We are crippled by our dependence on countries which don't actually share our geopolitical interests and are thus not able to implement foreign policies which actually further our ideology.

Beyond geopolitics, we are in need of a technological revolution which will spur on our economy. The renewable energy market is about $614.92 billion this year globally. We ought to try and dominate this market world wide by investing in research and subsidizing start ups in order to gain a market advantage on the global stage.

4 years ago
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