The debate "Sadly all muslims are judged to be terrorists. do you honestly believe all muslims are terrorists" was started by
August 7, 2015, 8:38 pm.
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That might be enough to see the common perception.
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not all muslims are terrorist its not hard to understand. theres terrorists in most religions like christianity some of them bombed abortion clinics
ezza, to be a terrorist, you commit an act of terror against another country. it's just from "bombing, shooting" stuff
Misconceptions is the reason SOME people think this. Whether they say it just to raise hell or because they really believe it, it is a fact that it isn't true. Funny I got into an argument with someone who was saying "burn the qur an" the other day... he gave his reasons through direct quotes from the holy book. But, on closer inspection, these "reasons" were completely taken out of context. The very name "Islam" means "peace" or something close to that. This taking out of context is exactly what ISIS does to justify their actions. It isn't right.
Have to be stupid to say all terrorists are Muslim.
I think it's natural for a person to see someone in a group doing something that's frowned upon and immediately categorize the group of people, such as terrorism from Islamic roots. I understand that it's natural, but it isn't right. And I think that any person with proper values, educated or not, should be able to recognize that it is not everyone in the group causing the problem, nor is it right to judge the whole group based on the actions of some members.
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Historybuff, you may want to change your vote. You are arguing against the belief that all Muslims are terrorists but have voted that they are.
Not all terrorists are Muslim. there are lots of terrorists from many faiths including Christians. Please stop saying that. it simply isn't true.
all terrorists are muslim
because muslim used to tell their childrens is all about to make harm to othsr peoples
i disagree to assume that all muslim is a terrorrist. stereotype of people saying muslim is a terrorist because they were bombing, killing some people while they are not a soldier and just because they are only general people who used mask and they are assumed as muslim. it is not fair, when US army who killed millions people in afghanistan, syria, so on and so fort never been called as a terrorist only because they are stated as soldier and not muslim. if, terrorist means, killing people by bombing, shooting or else, i think we should call US army for example as a terrorist too, or maybe high level of terrorist. basicly it is just media who named it, muslim as terrorist and also a political movement because media also never mentioned US army as not a terrorist. so, who is the real terrorist?
the point is i don't see all muslims are terrorist. but what i fail to understand that why all the terrorists are muslim.. isis, al qaeda, hezbollah, and other terrorist organization consists of muslim. that is the point. they are so devoted towards their religious ideas that they ultimately try to wash out all the other religions. and they do it by unfair means. and hence eventually all terrorists are muslims.
Take a quick look at the history of terrorism on Wikipedia. Until the 20th century its pretty much all Christians.
it's absurd to say all terrorists are Muslims. Look at what the IRA did. They used terrorist tactics to further their political agenda. Every country in WW2 engaged in terrorist activities.
It is not a fact, and I do not agree that all terrorists are Muslim. There are terror attacks by non Muslims all the time.
i will agree that all Muslims are not terrorists but it is a fact and u have to agree that all terrorists are Muslims. i think they want to rule the world. Its ironical that they think they are working for Allah in taking lives of innocents. This orthodox thinking must be changed or else world will have more organisations like ISIS and Mujahedin. These orthodox Muslim must change their attitude or this world will have to take concrete steps.
No. no one is saying a particular race is prone to violence. we are saying a religion is more willing to use violence. there are many races that have adherents of Islam. It is in no way racist.
that's just racist
I can accept your 70/100 too 80/100 idea. I thought you were going for a much larger difference. I can accept you argument they they are more slightly more willing to justify violence in the name of religion.
I think there are people who judge Muslims to universally be terrorists. But I don't think they're a majority... I would be surprised if statistics showed that minority was any bigger than the minority of Muslims who support terrorism.
First, I'm not claiming Christianity isn't violent. It's a repulsive religion quite surely. However, it is not intrinsically as violent or capable of justifying a certain type of violence as Islam. It's simply a matter of degrees in a sense. If Christianity is a 70/100 on the intrinsic justification for violence scale, then Islam is a 80/100. That is my only claim here.
As far as the term "martyr" goes, the two religions use the term in radically different ways. To the point where the two almost take on different meanings. Martyr is traditionally a term meaning witness. However, that term is clearly changed in Islamic traditions.
Christians were often asked to deny what they had witnessed or face execution. From this stage, "martyr" came to refer to a person who would willingly if not gladly be put to death rather than deny the faith he had come to accept with such firm conviction.
Eventually, the term "martyr" was applied exclusively to those who died for their faith. Martyrdom, nonetheless, was always clearly distinguished from suicide or anything suggestive of suicide. According to St. Gregory of Nazianzus, it is mere rashness to seek death, but it is cowardly to refuse it. In the modern age, G.K. Chesterton has remarked that the Christian "must desire life like water and yet drink death like wine."
Islamic traditions also condemn suicide, but according to Islamic tradition, anyone who kills himself for the sake of Allah is doing something not suicidal but sacrificial, and therefore is considered a martyr. Here Islam and Christianity part company.
The concept of martyrdom (shahada) in Islam is to be understood in light of the Islamic concept of the Holy Struggle (jihad). The latter concept, in turn, is to be understood only if right and wrong (al-amr bi'l-maruf) are properly understood. The concept of martyrdom in Islam, therefore, is linked with the entire breadth of its religious teaching. But the crucial point here is that Islam does provide a justification for a martyr (shahid) to taking his life in a violent manner that claims the lives of others in the same process.
So Christians aren't told to seek martyrdom, they are told to embrace it should it come. Islam, however, teaches martyrdom as something to be sought out.
This makes Islam particularly susceptible to becoming a death cult.
Martyrdom is a central part of Christianity. Many of the saints were martyrs. Many popes preached that killing heathens was not murder, it was the path to heaven. this idea that Christianity isn't violent is rediculous.
Islam, unlike the other religions of the world, is much more conducive to the "death cult" like mentality of radical Islamist though. It is because of the believe in martyrdom and paradise, etc... that we see justifications for suicide bombers etc... that you would never be able to see in Christianity, Hinduism, and certain Buddhist sects (zen Buddhists being the exception). The religion of Islam is intrinsically more accepting of the types of actions we now consider terrorism.
Just like Christian culture was conducive to terrorism. the crusades, the IRA the klu klux Klan etc. and virtually every other religion. the reason that Muslims use terrorism is because they can't fight back using standard military tactics because they are so outgunned. They are radicalised because they have been trying to defend themselves for the last 100 years from Europeans and now Americans. Their culture is no more conducive to if than western culture was when we were more religious.
I do not believe all Muslims are terrorists and I do not believe that a majority of the populous believes all Muslims are terrorists. What I do believe is that the Muslim culture/Islamic faith is conducive to terrorism. If anyone would like to contest those points I'd be happy to go into more detail.
I am disagreeing because I do not think all Muslims are terrorists, not because I do not feel they are all unfairly judged by the actions of the most extremist groups professing their faith.