The debate "Schools should eliminate uniforms" was started by
May 17, 2019, 10:02 am.
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Yes disciplinary values are required
we are all individuals who have a right to dress how we want
but there should be a dress code so students dont come to class practically naked
Any evidence of this? Rules, obviously, are necessary. But, a uniform is not and, in my opinion, is authoritarian overkill.
there is a discipline factor too
a uniform, a set of rules and regulations inculcates discipline in you which will help you to deal with difficult times when you grow up
It's 21th century, i think that uniforms are old thing and everyone have right to get dressed what he wants, but in school that should be decently outfit.
Instead of hidding a way the differences between the children, we should create a society where the what you wear is not affecting the charecter in question.
I feel it's stupid to force students to have to srick to uniforms because they want everyone to be treated equally. The students should be able to express themselbes and besides they need to learn that in the real world not everyone is treated equally.
but not all students are equal.
MADHURA but students are not equal some are smarter than others some are faster stronger than others
schools have uniform to show that all students are equal
I think school uniforms are rubbish. idk about ban, but I would prefer to send my kids elsewhere (all things being equal)
Depends on the context
Yeah, but an opinion can't be a threat. If you were to say. "I don't think she deserves to live." You should be arrested for it?
Well, a threat is still a thought and opinion.The reason it's not legal is because it has an externality. But, I just meant that the government, in relation to expression, can only tell us what we cannot do (to an extent), not what we must do.
School may let you wear whatever you want, as long as it's appropriate and not violating dress code. Like if someone threatens to stab you. You can sue them for saying that.
Well freedom of speech is to let you speak your thoughts and opinions about things. Not to threaten someone.
In my case, it was 50/50
Yes, and that is more to do with home life than school life, often times
not necessarily trying to say. "Wearing a uniform will help you graduate." But increase your disciplen. Which I believe if someone is disciplen, they may pay attention better in class.
While private schools do often have higher graduation rates, this is not because they are private schools, and especially not because there are uniforms. It is mainly to do with home life of private school students
Would you also agree that the Gov uses the people's money to fund the Military? People get Taxed so the Gov can give us Education and Protection.
I mean for Private schools. Your right, the student wouldn't have a choice ether, But the that money is going to that Private school. If I am correct, a student at a private school has a better chance at graduating then a Public school student.
Although you may have changed my opinion on things. Maybe a uniform is better for students. Because it may increase their disciplen. Maybe Students should wear school Uniforms because it may actually improve graduation rates.
I say that because if school is more strict on clothes, maybe students improve in school.
What I would say on the point of restricting certain clothes but not enforcing a uniform is the same that I would say on free speech: the government tell me what I'm not allowed to say (to an extent (slander, threats, inciting panic inciting violence)), but the government cannot say what I am required to say (pronouns, etc.).
Well, the student wouldn't have a choice if it was a private school either (youth students). That's part of being a minor is that you don't get to choose what school you go to.
And, yes, that was my point that public school is not free. People just don't directly pay the schools.
and I don't think restricting a clothing is called for uniform wear. although it is true that some Jobs that are founded by the Gov do wear Uniforms, but by their choice. They wanted to apply for that job.
as for public schools. A student may not have wanted to go to that particular school. I'm not saying they should go to school naked cause they can only wear underwear.
I'm only saying that they should feel free to wear whatever as long as it's appropriate.
OK, I do agree that they should restrict some clothing in public schools, but I don't think they should tell you. "You have to wear white shirt." because they think it's controversial.
P.S: I was using an example. Please don't take. "White shirt." out of context. Not saying you would, but someone might.
It's fine if you felt need to press this. The Gov is funded by the people, but in your case. Public school isn't free. Because even though they're funded by the Gov. They are using the people's money to fund it. Correct?
And, to bring up private schools and such is why I wanted OP to clarify because, yes, private schools are private businesses. They can enforce a dress code for the same reason they can be a religious school.
Also, public schools are not free, and I do feel the need to press this. You corrected yourself by saying that they are government funded, but the government is people funded.
Well, most jobs aren't supported by the government, but many of them still have uniforms. Also, it's not a uniform in the conventional sense, but one could argue that a dress code is a form of uniforms. And, schools go way passed the legal "dress code" of indecent exposure.
So What I'm saying is that Public schools should not make you wear Uniforms because they are supported by Gov
I know that may sound unfair or maybe a little Bias, but that's just my thinking of it.
Why I think this is that a public school is free. therefore; You should not be told what to wear and what not to wear. However; When it comes to sports, Clubs and private schools. I do think it's necessary to wear uniforms. In a sport, your on a team. it's because of what School your representing when you are participating in a sport.
A club. Like ROTC or FFA. Wearing a Uniform may count for a grade. At least at a school I know. They also may go compete, witch may also require a Uniform.
As for Private schools. Sense they aren't supported by the Gov. They can have you wear Uniforms. and I am assuming that if they are supported, their are restrictions right? Unless I'm wrong. They are Private schools because they want to teach what ever they want. And the Gov doesn't have to step in. Unless they get sued.
Why do you think this? I would reappoint my occupational argument
I don't think schools don't need to make kids were uniforms in public school. Unless it's a sport, club and a Private school.
So, please clarify so that we may have a fruitful discussion.
Secondly, you don't have the right to know which side I'm on; that is a privilege and is my choice of when to reveal it.
Thirdly, I have not chosen a side because you have not given me enough information to fully understand your prompt. I have asked my clarifying questions and you have not clarified.
If the goal of schools is suppose to be to ready the students for occupations (whether it succeeds or fails in doing so), and many occupations have uniforms, why should schools not have uniforms?
Also, do you mean public and charter schools or all schools, including private schools?