Sometimes it's better not to tell truth

October 10, 2019, 5:44 am

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The debate "Sometimes it's better not to tell truth" was started by benedict on October 10, 2019, 5:44 am. 64 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 34 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

TheExistentialist posted 2 arguments to the agreers part.
Levanto posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

benedict, Lind, JustLikeJackman, TheExistentialist, K1VK2DF, dinosaurrawr, Bayan_Alhusban and 57 visitors agree.
Levanto, Agrumentman and 32 visitors disagree.

TheExistentialist
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That's a misrepresentation of the argument. The question should be framed as: "So you prefer people to lie to you, sometimes, when it creates more good than harm?". See how that changes things?

1 month, 4 weeks ago

So you prefer people lie to you, sometimes, when it's ok for them? That can give you a lot of problems friend

1 month, 4 weeks ago
TheExistentialist
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That depends on whether you see morality as objective or subjective. In Utilitarianism for example the only consideration is whether an action produces more good than harm. It is independent of social norms etc.... something like Eugenics is pseudo-science that produces no real measurable good but does produce suffering; thus, under utilitarianism it would be considered bad.

The problem with Deontological claims of absolutes like "lying is always wrong", produce morally questionable outcomes.

If a terrorist death squad asks for the wearabout of their would be victims, lying about their whereabouts could save their life and not-lying would surely damn them to death. In this case you'd be wrong to safe the lives of the potential victims via lying if you took a strictly deontological approach.

Objective morality is very problematic, not only in the sense that it can produce intuitively "right" acts and classify them as "wrong" and vice-versa. It also suffers from the problem of there needing to be a source for the morality.

1 month, 4 weeks ago

I think morality and benefit are different. Like eugenics may be beneficial, but is it good? Society may as lying is morally bad, but there's no doubt it can create benefit

1 month, 4 weeks ago

When a lie brings more good than harm; it may not be a wrong. Telling a family their loved one died quickly and peacefully rather than slowly and agonizingly has no real harm associated with it. However, giving them a small peace of comfort obviously does some good.

2 months ago

I guess it depends on what it would be better for, since something is only better in relation to something

2 months ago
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