The debate "Stand with Israel" was started by
April 8, 2016, 9:59 am.
10 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 16 people are on the disagree side.
People are starting to choose their side.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
swat posted 3 arguments, oscar90000 posted 2 arguments, bigB posted 2 arguments, TZW posted 24 arguments to the agreers part.
RyanWakefield posted 4 arguments, bennie posted 27 arguments, swat posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.
oscar90000, fadi, Alex, TZW, mike5193, bigB, Razor and 3 visitors agree.
swat, bennie, confident, RyanWakefield, ProudAmerican888, blanco and 10 visitors disagree.
And the US trained the Taliban. You'd be insane if you didn't think the IDF doesn't have ITs
Btw, they were blanks! all of them, kinda on likely, isn't it?
I have my sources sir, call it what you please, but the fact is the rockets found in Jerusalem in 2014 that was supposedly fired by Hamas were from Israel military weapons.
So you're a conspiracy theorist rather then taking factual things.
Israel don't care about Hamas, they supply Hamas with weapons so they have a reason to occupy the rest of Palestine territory, that how they did since they first came into Palestine.
Hamas is in control of the Gaza Strip and use the civilians as shields, Israel uses every means to curb collateral damage.
you're using your speculations, when the fact is Britain and UN gave a land to a group of people by force, without the people who have the true right to that land agreeing. And blowing up buildings from every side of Gaza random is showing that they just want to kill as much as they can.
All the nations surrounding Israel would destroy it and every Jew in it. Don't pretend all those nations and people's want to live happily ever after, they want the total destruction of Israel. The rocket attacks were unsuccessful because of the iron dome. The Israeli military drops leaflets a day before the attack any position. Hamas is in control of the Gaza Strip and use the civilians as shields, Israel uses every means to curb collateral damage. But then again war is hell. Every war in recorded history has not just been between the soldiers but also the civilian population is involved. This is reality of war, it sucks yes but it's war. This is an inevitable fact.
Go back all the way to ancient times and you will see the civilian population always suffers during war. This debate is futile now, you have made it abundantly clear you hate Israel. You are entrenched in the idea Israel is evil.
That's a Donald Trump statement lol. Jews I love the jews there's no bigger fan of the jews then me.
See personal feelings. Stop being so dramatic.
the crazy thing is, I love Jewish people they respectable, I hate Zionist, and I hate people the agree what Zionist are doing is good. Trying to justify that they're good for blowing up homes and killing babies, your worst then them.
You take things way to personal there kid lol. The Israelis aren't targeting babies. It happens during war, even the US kills children and from time to time. It's not specifically targeting them. Let me guess you are a civilian and not a service member? You know nothing of war just what you see on TV.
No one is going to get their long swords and go into the middle of field for conflict anymore those days are gone. People die during war, it's a fact of life. You know nothing of either just googling things in between each comment.
see what you got me doing, using profanity, you f***ing pussy
First, I'm not a pussy, I'm just more humane then the cold hearted Zionist baby killers. And war should be between soldiers, there's nothing tough about killing women and children, you sick f***! "warfare" Zionist pussyfare, Zionist scum! Babylonian worshippers, you dont know shit! you not even a Israelite, you just a fake self claiming Jew
So they should ignore provacations of oppressors? What if Mexico launched rockets into the US? Just ignore it and do nothing? Get out of this everyone loves everyone b.s. I get when confrontation meets you, you cower in fear. You're such a pussy when it comes to warfare. The jews are surrounded by enemies. Literally surrounded, if they one act slide all nations will view them as week. What happened last time they laid down? The Holocaust happened. They are not going to allow it to happen again. It's called civil considerations. Palastine should have got the message after their first volley, but did they? No. Isreal has not only said but shown they fight back, and fight back hard.
It's not our problem we grow up privileged and they don't. Everyday is cold war scenario there. You either show you're tough, or you get beat. Look at Georgia, Russia ran them over. Wake up and realize it's war, and not a cup of tea after dinner.
TZW, do you even know that your a khazar?
TZW, just stop, please! you sound f***ing sick! justify the killing babies as a nation defending itself, coming man!
Does a nation not have a right to defend itself?
What's your reference?
Palestinians rockets attacks were unsuccessful, blanks, and all of them were from israel, you stop lying, kid!
Why do you support Palastinians since they have done worse then the Israelis?
TZW, I bet you yourself have no blood line that leads to any of the tribe's of Israel, I bet your a khazar descent like the rest of the 85 percent of jews in the world.
Palastinians do the same. Look at all their rocket attacks. The US has a leash on Isreal or Palastine wouldn't exist. And no it isn't, stop lying.
Elohim is pluar noun used as respect for God, now who's lying. You obviously don't know anything, Solomon temple was built in Jerusalem now because of this, it gives them the right to slighter women and children and occopy there land's. And like I said there is no such thing as a white Israelites, they have no right for that land.
Elohim isn't even the plural it's a single noun.
Kid just shut up. You have no valid statements pertaining to anything. Just used lies and fake b.s to justify what you were saying. Maybe if you took the time to know what you were talking about I could take you more serious. But, you don't know anything about the subject just babble on about nothing. You say the Hebrews didn't own the land their? Why is that where Solomons Temple was built? Why is that that's where the tribe of Judah is from? The root of the term Jew?
I know I'm using it for respect! ; )
Elohim is the plural word for God, and I don't know Hebrew just a little bit, enough to know no one he knows Hebrew .
And it's goy. Goyim is plural. Goodness guy, you really know nothing.
It's so easy you don't know, just like everything in Isreal, you don't know.
if it's easy why didn't you answer it?
Lol, you wanna test me if I know Hebrew, but you still won't believe if I gave you the answer, you goyim!
TZW, let me ask you something, Are you a white Jew?
Elohim is easy, you retard, give me something else
Don't worry I'll wait for your Google to load so you can find out everything you have said is wrong beenie.
Here without Google, what does Elohim mean beenie? it's an easy words that most people know even if they don't speak other languages. I have my money on you're going to Google it and say you didnt.
Hahaha... "if he really knew"
if really knew, then you'd know.
Messiah means messiah..... You really think that messiah is an English or Latin word?
TZW, your wrong!
No it isn't, beenie. I speak hebrew. How are you going to tell me I don't know what it means? You know nothing of Jews or Palastinians and it's an audacity that you act like you do know. Everything you have said is incorrect or a lie, because you know nothing of this.
Now an actual Jewish person can teach us both on this subject..... I'm betting TZW knows more about his ancestors history than any of us know
I wasn't assuming I know more than everyone else, just more than you on this subject. I suggest to read more on this subject, like an actual history book.
So Isreal is the terrorist now, hmm....
TZW, your Jewish? lol, your wrong! Easha is in Hebrew Aramaic and Arabic, Yeshua is messiah in Hebrew
Yeshua is the Jesus' name in hebrew. meaning joshua. Get your facts right.
And eashua maseekha is the Aramaic translation for Jesus the messiah. Do your study young goyim.
Goliath was Philistine, philistine and palastinian are two different types of peopl. Palastinians came about during the Ottoman empire
Catholic, they would treat you the same as Palestinian over there. And wrong, yahshua is the Hebrew and Arabic name for Joshua the prophet who lead the Israelites to the holy land, do studies and stop assuming that you more then everyone else you ignoramus. And I answered the question, I condemn oppressors if Hamas are oppressors I condemn them, even if they are the only defense they have against the true terrorist the israeling army.
Being Jewish has nothing to do with it. I'm Catholic if you must know, we were required to know the history of the old testament and this history of the Israeli people. (people forget Catholism derives from the Jewish faith). Yahshua or Yeshua is a transliteration of Aramaic for Messiah.
You have yet to answer my question. Are you going to answer or are you going to keep babbling on?....
And I did more then refuted the argument , I f***ing destroyed it!
I condemn all oppressors! I don't know what I'm talking about, who is yahshua? bigB. I know the history of the Israelites by heart, and I'm not a Israelite. Google search, ha don't make me laugh! its obvious that your acting like you know something when you don't, just admit that you like Israel killing babies you sicko. Are even Jewish bibB?
TZW, Palestinians were there way before Israelite, don't you know the story of David and Goliath? and I watch the news and all I see is Zionist scum killing innocent people so they can occupy whats little left of Palestine land . Zionist organization were the first to shade blood, even though what right does Britain have to give the land to the Zionist baby killers.
Ok bennie, you still didn't refute the argument. You used a Hebrew name of the Messiah and mentioned the Hebrews wondering the desert for forty years. You haven't refuted anything, and yet you say we need to do our history. I've learned this history for many years know. This type of history one cannot do a quick Google search and act like you know what you are talking about.
You never did answer my question. Obviously you stand with Palestine, so my question is; Do you think Hamas is doing something good by fighting Isreal? Do you condemn Hamas altogether?
israel and palestine was given independence in 1948 by the UK. and specific areas were given to jews and others to palestinians. the jewish area was declared israel while the muslims areas were declared as palestine. soon after the british left, jealous palestine with other arabian allies attacked the jewish nation. israel got support from the US and it took palestine. the result of what palestine is today is the punishment given to it due to attacking a newborn jewish state. I STAND WITH ISRAEL.
The Israelite was cast out from The Graces of God, disgraced for refusing to enter the Holy Land after it was promised to them , because of their greed they we're cursed to wonder the deserts for 40 years, and still they took the land lead by prophet Yahshua. And its crazy we talking about thousands of years ago, you fellas really trying your best to justify Zionist murdering women and children, destroying homes, its funny to you guy's huh. And btw, there is no such thing as white Jews in biblical times, which the Zionist that took that land today have no right, and I'm ignorant, do your history khazars!
united nations has given Israel to Israel, as a Jewish nation, 1948 Israel agreed to have peace and that Palestine had right to the country, but Palestine refused and Palestine decleared war against Israel, that is fact, do that there still is boarder conflict is only the fault of the Palestinians
Funny you say that I am jewish actually.
you talk about Jews and Muslims like they are alien races that are unable to survive together. Why can't they just all live in the same place?
Beenie only reads books about what supports his ideas. History books? No he doesn't like those lol. Here is a history lesson for you beenie. The jews were there long before the other people that are there now and of course Jews are mad, they destroyed Solomons Temple to build a mosque their.
Ooh yeah, "stop reading a book and open your f***ing eyes".... Wow you are stupid, you've shown you are ignorant, and you might want to pick up some books..... you might just learn something
what about a book on the Jews? Was it not their land before they were slaves in Egypt, long before Palestine was ever given a thought. Or what about the exodus from the Persian's?
If you want to talk about more recent history. Was it not their right to expand their land for a more defensible position? Like through the six day war and the seven day war. They are surrounded by hostile nations, they have a right to defend themselves. What do you think Israel is bad and Hamas is good?
"Read a book" f***ing ignorant mother f***ers, women and children are killed, Gaza destroyed, homes demolished , what you need to so is stop reading a book and open up your f***ing eyes!
Your lying , there was no agreement to give Palestine there land back, why would they refuse if that was the case? The fact is, the united nations decided to give the Zionist a country within a existing one, no matter the cause. And slowly but surely Israel kept finding excuses to push away the Palestinians and occupying their land. Every nation deserve they own land, and the Zionist was offered one in Africa by the British, but they refused, instead they wanted to occupy Palestine and slaughter as much of them as they can until there is not one left for a land to be for.
Ryan open a book up read it before making opinions on Isreal.
Palestinian can have there country, but they do attacking Israel, as well Israel agreed to peace 1948 with give palestinans there land but they refused and attacked Israel,
the whole point of the fighting and protests by Palestinians is about independence
what i believe that palestine should be given independence and they instead should let israelis live peacefully.
ok boy i understand. but terrorists are terrorists.
Muslims are people, just like you
yes! I HATE MUSLIMS.
and oppress thousands of people who already owned the land before Israel existed?