The debate "The biblical God is not a god worth bowing down to. nWhy or why not" was started by
December 20, 2018, 4:12 pm.
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any god that demands worship, especially with an "or else", is not worship. it shows human flaws like vanity and signs of evil. such a God deserves only fear worship, not love. such a God is a tyrant, not a benevolent king.
gods are interesting! i believe they are created by masses of good people to counter and ward off evil dieties. they are all thoughtforms or servitors or egregores or possessive life created with a purpose. these things all have a large effect on the world and our thoughts. we do spend too much time focusing on the religions only because we don't know what's going on.
I agree, only because I: 1, don't believe in the bible considering it was compiled and written and sorted through and edited by a bunch of guys over many years thousands of years ago and translated into hundreds of different languages before even reaching English; and 2, all that led to God seeming like a supposedly loving God that says racist and homophobic bs once in a while
He is supposed to be above human kind and yet he fails at that. He is arrogant and cruel and lacks the qualities of a good leader. Why should homosexuals be punished for being who they are? According to religion they are gods creation and yet he considers them bad marking his incompetence as a creator. Also, just because I do. not believe in him I am to go to Hell? This is also wrong in my opinion. If I am his craetion then surely he must see that just because I don't believe in him doesnt mean I'm a bad person and if not, this just shows how unintelligent he is
God necessarily possesses paradoxical aspects since He must be beyond human comprehension by definition. His wisdom must necessarily contradict human wisdom at times because it necessary supercedes all finite thought. Listen to the heart; in stillness supernal truth manifests. Look at us. How can we be qualified to judge what God is or isn't? Modesty is the fount of all gifts of the heart.
I wouldn't bow down to anyone who demands bowing down to, but I do believe he deserves praise for creation of the world and my life. (this is assuming cannonicity, his existence and role still being an open question).
as for his alleged properties, I dont think they contradict each other as much as they contradict his ability to have free will. either way, I dont think we will be able to tell the difference between all powerful and extremely powerful. a computer programmer isnt all powerful, but he certainly seems that way from inside the program. similarly, a t-1000 terminator would seem pretty godly in the middle ages.... but is objectively not omni anything.
as for the contradiction: if he knows all moves he can make in a situation (omniscience), has the power to carry them all out (omnipotence), and would only choose the best one (omnibenevolence), then he has no choice but to pick and carry out the best one. this makes him less a conscious father figure, and more an unconscious force of nature.
His omni- description is kind of debatable, but I do agree that the omni-god is obviously a paradox. But, my statement is more of a moral one, than an ontological one.
the biblical God is an omni- paradox. he can't be omnibenevolant, omnipotent, and omnipowerful. look it up.