The debate "The Confederate flag should NOT be banned as its part of history" was started by
January 8, 2016, 10:37 pm.
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That might be enough to see the common perception.
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to you it means southern pride, now.
to others it means slavery and oppression.
but to the ones who actually waved it, it was a symbol of their treason against this country.
The confederate flags meaning is southern pride
exactly there kids or immature young adults. does it absolve them from a crime? no but it does give lenancy on most crimes.(though not specifically for this since it's not a crime)
ur right. it involves little things like having a flag flying. wether it be a rainbow one, a feminist one, the American flag, or yes even the Confederate.
in a way it can be like that but there are multiple reasons.
personally I don't like them flying it but it's there choice if it's their truck or house.
This all depends on perspective. Someone could think that it is helpful in learning from the past. but someone who had slaves as ancestors would agree that it should be abolished. I think they should be removed from the public and put into museums where people can further understand them. You must see this from both perspectives and come up with a resolution. I think putting them in a confined area where people can learn about the confederacy and understand what it was about without being offended is a legitimate or reasonable choice. But again, it depends on perspective.
sounds like ignorant kids playing on peer pressure who don't know their own history.
most rebellion doesn't involve armed conflict against your fellow country men, especially for the primary (and possibly only) reason of ownership of humans.
best theory, the South can't escape their history so they choose to embrace it. much like minorities reclaim the demeaning terms used against them. which explains why nonracist southerners embrace the confederate flag, but there are still far too many white supremacy groups that take it's popular usage as a justification for their racist beliefs.
how do you think it feels to be a non ignorant minority walking through a neighborhood covered in the flag that represents oppression and hate? especially on public land.
I know plenty of young black guys where I live who own one. I actually know one specifically who has two waving in the back of his truck. is he or any of the people I know no matter there color flying the flag to say how they want black people to be slaves? no. they do because to them it's a symbol of rebellion which teens are known to do.
Please explain the black minority who own one of these flags?
najam most who own the Confederate flag don't use it in the way of racism. they fly it for rebellion.
the confederate flag is an excuse for criminals that never get arrested by false god police to call folks niggers, but they are the actual niggers themselves hiding it behind a skin color.
I don't see why one would be in a park unless it's in the south and is part of a statue or something else historical. if it's private then it isn't something that should be in the gov. control.
how about official state parks? I think the only places that should fly a confederate flag are private property and *inside* a relevant museum.
since they are supposed to be professional building the only flag they should be having up is ours.
no one questions that you should be allowed to have it. The question is whether we should fly it over our official buildings.
I'm pretty sure it was almost entirely over slavery. some will argue it was about "states rights" but it was really "states rights to choose slavery".
it depends on who and why. the south fought for many things. we as a society just like to pay attention to the leaf that toppled the moantain. even if there were no slaves before that time they would of gone to war. though the Confederate flag now has been turned into a racist thing. but people no matter why they want it should be allowed to have it for the same reason we are allowed to burn our flag. freedom of speech.
the confederate flag is now a symbol of rebellion. Thats not a bad thing
To the OP I would like to ask a few questions:
1. From where and what are we banning the flag from.
2. Lets say you had your own country, with its own language and customs, and this country endured a very brutal civil war, the effects of which may linger presently. How would you feel if a fraction albeit a small fraction of people still not only were sympathetic to the rebellious fraction of the Civil War that happened in your country but also still raised and flew its flag in your country?
while it is true that we, as a society, need to remember and understand the motives and mistakes of our past, using imagry associated with offensive and derogatory claims to no purpose other than decoration is unnecessary.
You don't see Germans flying Nazi flags around claiming its heritage why should America do it? People claim it's patriotic however you are flying the enemies flag of the civil war around in the US.
banned from what books,capitols,museums ?