The death penalty puts innocent lives at risk

May 20, 2015, 8:13 pm

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The debate "The death penalty puts innocent lives at risk" was started by GetRekt on May 20, 2015, 8:13 pm. 21 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 9 people are on the disagree side. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

GetRekt posted 4 arguments, PsychDave posted 1 argument, I_Voyager posted 2 arguments to the agreers part.
Damn3d posted 2 arguments to the disagreers part.

GetRekt, soullesschicken, PsychDave, Jamison, Bodaciouslady16, icarus, Sosocratese, evamara, I_Voyager, Rhiannon09, alma_theo, sdiop and 9 visitors agree.
Tonyabrown, toughgamerjerry, pretty_twin, Damn3d, WordSpeller, jonatron5 and 3 visitors disagree.

I_Voyager
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Although I didn't read it, I heard about this paper released a year ago which concluded that 4% of death row inmates were innocent. If there were no death penalty, no innocent lives would be at risk because of the need for justice. Though the quality of life for innocents would still be at risk... But I guess at some point you've got to draw the line and, like Picard, say "no further!"

http://www.pnas.org/content/111/20/7230

4 years, 6 months ago
I_Voyager
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I don't know why you continue to disagree with the motion when you've expressed that you agree. Though you may not believe it to be a high chance of innocents being at risk, you agree that there is a risk. Therefore you agree the motion is true: the death penalty puts innocent lives at risk.

4 years, 6 months ago

What happened to Indonesia may also happen to America. We can't risk Innocent's life anymore.

4 years, 6 months ago

Oh Lord no, I was talking about America. In foreign countries where the due process of law is lacking, or where facade democracies exist, the death penalty can certainly be used as a weapon to dispose of just about anyone without hard evidence. If you were taking about Indonesia, then I agree fully.

But Dave also pointed out that even in America, people have been unfairly convicted and the process of law is falable. So I do suppose that in a sense, there is always a chance an innocent man is put to death. But at least here, all citizens have the right to a just trial.
So the risk is lower.

4 years, 6 months ago

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4 years, 6 months ago

Damned,

if you're watching news, Indonesian president Joko widodo allowed my countryman to be executed because drugs were found at her luggage 3 years ago. She was sentenced to death without giving due process.. My countryman was just a victim of human trafficking. She was just a victim.. Despite all the efforts our government did, the execution still happened. how would you explain than

4 years, 6 months ago

Take a look at the break down of who is found guilty and who is in prison and it becomes fairly obvious race plays a role. Statistically, people from minorities are more likely to be convicted. They are also more likely to be arrested based on being in the wrong place at the wrong time, as recent events have demonstrated.

Disregarding the racial issues, if you look at the Death Penalty Information Center website, they have a list of people who were on death row who were exonerated. These people were already convicted and their executions were planned, but on review they were found to be innocent. By definition their innocent lives were at risk.

The legal system is made and run by people. People make mistakes, which means there will always be innocent people convicted. Until a foolproof method of determining guilt is found, the death penalty will put innocent people at risk.

4 years, 6 months ago

Disagree. If you understood the legal system, you would realize the death penalty is only given to those who have been convicted of extremely serious crimes. Race and place has nothing to do with who gets out and who does not. Tsarniev was not given the death penalty because he is Chechnian. He was given the death penalty because there was indisputable proof that he committed a crime worthy of the penalty. Aaron Hernandez wasn't given lifetime in jail because he was Hispanic, he got it because he murdered 3 people.
Is there a chance that the wrong man is convicted? Yes, which is why there is such a stringency on evidence. In today's world you would be hard pressed to find a death row inmate who has been sentenced to death without evidence.
The legal system runs on innocent until proven guilty, and if there is no proof, there is no penalty.

4 years, 6 months ago

race and place determine who lives and who dies.

4 years, 6 months ago
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