The debate "The only purpose people believe in God for is that it helps them form a safe cacoon for themselves" was started by
February 25, 2015, 12:12 pm.
16 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 29 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
Satvik_Soni posted 1 argument, Preploukus posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
PsychDave posted 2 arguments, I_Voyager posted 4 arguments, ItsMateo posted 3 arguments to the disagreers part.
Satvik_Soni, sickboyblonde, Preploukus, Martin2489, danielle, misfitcarrot, ms_open_mind and 9 visitors agree.
Kirito, PsychDave, BloodyCarousel, Haelaeif, llthslvtr, I_Voyager, zerefazo, Gurkavitch, Hollister_boy, ItsMateo, Getmurked, gtomk and 17 visitors disagree.
Ah yes I know what LSD is....and yes we do have some"trippy denominations. But in reality, these small branches aren't really part of our church.
Ah. When I first read your thing, my brain flipped the words. I read 'lsd mormon.' Hense me saying you have trippy denomenations... Because LSD is acid... Yeah.
wait right there, I was wrong. I am not Mormon. I am LDS. I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Mormon is a commonly used term just because of what we preach mostly. The Book of Mormon. But I guess the reason for all of these separate branches and denominations is because of our religion. We give much freedom to members and our beliefs are completely diverse from other religions, leading to members rethinking things to suddenly start their own separate sect of the LDS religion. Such as Kate Kelly, once was a member, who pushed for women to be ordained for the priesthood. But she failed to do that and is trying to start her own separate branch of the LDS religion.
I've also been having some interesting conversations with a transhumanist mormon. What is it about Mormonism that founds so many odd branches? Never heard of Transhuman Islam or LSD Buddhism. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.
You Mormons have some pretty trippy sub-denominations ;)
I am an LDS Mormon. And proud to be one. In my case, the reason I believe in God, is because I truly, most absolutely, believe that there is one. The reason we Latter-Day Saints believe that God is a living being, is because we know that there is one! We didnt just make up this God to feel comforted or as you say "cacoon". There is a God. And I have much faith that there IS a God in our lives.
I agree with Dave. There are very bold people who don't need religion to dispel fears, but to provide them with a sense of purpose or direction. Some people are religious because of social community, or just because they were made to be so and had no choice. There is also genetic evidence that people at a certain age are impelled towards religious belief, so there might also be natural causes for people to be religious. I don't believe in religion, but I think there are many people with many reasons to be religious.
Your topic wasn't "Does religion hold us back" it was "the only purpose people believe in God..." I was just illustrating that there are other reasons. Whether those reasons outweigh the damage that religious people do is a whole other debate. If there are other reasons, no matter what those reasons may be, then it is incorrect to say that using religion as a safety blanket is the only purpose.
don't you believe these should be known as common sense and basic social skills? It's possible that it does help slightly but when we look how religion can be thought of as a safety net, but it does has and will continue to hold us back.
Religion can help people have a sense of community, can give morals in grey areas, and can inspire people to do kind and generous things. Obviously not all religions, or all religious people, follow the best parts of any faith, but that doesn't mean the benefits don't exist.
With regards to Satvik 's question about the rock, I've heard this many times and it always seems like a cop out question. Can you create a riddle so clever even you can't solve it? If not, you can't be that smart, and if so, it can't be that clever. It's a theoretical question that is built to have no answer,and even as such it fails. Say for argument sake God exists and can create a rock that is infinitely large. By definition there is nowhere to lift that rock to because it is already infinite, it occupies every space there is. It isn't that God can't create an infinite mass in this thought experiment, it is that people can't wrap their minds around what an infinite mass is. What if that is what caused the big bang? God got tired of the people in the previous universe asking if he could create something so massive he couldn't lift it, so he created an infinitely dense mass by mashing together all of the annoyances which, when lifted, exploded.
Yes I do believe that people believe in God to have a safe cacoon around themselves.
If God is there then -
1)Why are there wars in his name?
2)Why does the universe follow a set of laws. What I wanna say here is that if even God has boundaries(the laws) then in what manner is he superior to us ?
3)Can he create a rock so big that even he can't lift it? If he can then why is he a "God"
if he can't then why is he a "God"?