The truth is like a lion you dont have to defend it. Let it loose it will defend itself.

March 14, 2016, 3:40 pm

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The debate "The truth is like a lion you dont have to defend it. Let it loose it will defend itself." was started by fadi on March 14, 2016, 3:40 pm. 10 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 12 people are on the disagree side. People are starting to choose their side. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

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fadi, Rhetorician, lawyerlady, JazzyK and 6 visitors agree.
PsychDave, ReadyToBegin, Cato, Sosocratese, PoliticsAsUsual, RyanWakefield, ProudAmerican888, maxxuser, Xavier, R_o_h_i_t, Elisabeth111 and 1 visitor disagree.

Not necessarily, it takes the people with the power (or in this case the hunter with the gun) to make the change and ultimately controls the change. And unless other people with guns make a case for the lion, the lion can plead and roar all it wants but it still doesn't have the power, only a voice.

However with that said, that voice is what sets the change in motion.

4 years, 3 months ago

leaded gasoline. that is all

4 years, 3 months ago

Provided there's no hunter in the forest.

4 years, 3 months ago

I like your view of truth with the caveat that I do think there are objective truths. There are some things, mostly scientific, which we can say are, whether people believe in them and experience them or not. Many facts are subjective, but there are things like gravity, light and matter which objectively are true. Closing ones eyes changes the subjective truth, but there is a greater, objective truth that remains.

4 years, 3 months ago

Truth is a degree of perspective on what actually is and nothing more or less. Personal experience communicated for complete public acceptance sheds light on the limitation of truth. When people's truth does not match, we abandon the word almost all together and use facts. Facts has limits for it will inevitably lead back to what "is" is whether we accept it r not...hello again personal truth.

Bottom line is we should defend our truth because it reflects our own unique subjective experience and perspectives. I define truth as simply meaning literally "that what is" and any attempt at cloaking or intentional misrepresentation of truth for whatever purpose is the act of deception. I challenge the vary notion of objective truth beyond our own personal experiences, perspectives, and my offered working definition provided above. I invite you to share your thoughts, thank you.

4 years, 3 months ago

the truth must be defended until the end. without truth there is no law, no order, only chaos. nobody will know what is wrong and what is right. of we forget the truths and are either making lies or unconsciously following lies bad things will happen.

And Sosocratees you sound like me bashing a politician in an unrelated debate.

4 years, 3 months ago

If trump's run for president has taught us anything, it is that this claim is absolutely false.

4 years, 3 months ago
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I agree with dave. Lies can spread and sometimes people rather have lie than a hard truth

4 years, 3 months ago

Hyperbole aside, most of the time the truth is able to hold up against lies because lies are hard to keep consistent without them snowballing. The problem is that interesting lies are easy to believe. If someone or something is sufficiently charismatic or compelling, people will want to believe it and ignore problems with it.

4 years, 3 months ago

A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.

Mark Twain

4 years, 3 months ago
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