The world would be better off without religion

January 14, 2016, 9:29 pm

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The debate "The world would be better off without religion" was started by AngryBlogger on January 14, 2016, 9:29 pm. 27 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 34 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

AngryBlogger posted 2 arguments, historybuff posted 1 argument, danielle posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
PsychDave posted 2 arguments, Burnin posted 1 argument, bcdunn7 posted 2 arguments, omactivate posted 2 arguments, zeroHour posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

AngryBlogger, TheMartian, historybuff, Firplius, danielle, rajarshimaiti, FlyingCookie, rob5998, Wookie, Arixeo, olympiax, project_mayhem, meherandit and 14 visitors agree.
PsychDave, peacock, Burnin, bcdunn7, aman, omactivate, Walrus0_0, ReadyToBegin, RightWing, zeroHour, duelist1, confident, aftermath, DarkDerpy, bigB, akdavid, H_Muneer, oscar90000, mandala, llemponen and 14 visitors disagree.

AngryBlogger. What countries? Religion binds countries. Sadly we don't have a great alternative

3 years, 8 months ago

we can be lost ,we doesn't have purpose in life ,even we have job ,if you get retired so what can you do then

3 years, 9 months ago

Guess I better defend my argument. Countries have been at wars for years due to religion and there many terrorist acting out due to religion. Sure religion provides positive things and guides people and even keeps some off crime but it's a fact the negatives clearly outweigh the positives, even if there are more positives. I mean take away religion, countries can then progress, take away religiion, there would be far less killings although it's entirely possible people will find other reasons to kill but for the most part, crime drops. It's not to say religion is bad, but we can do away with it.

3 years, 9 months ago

though I am unreligious religion was a necessary tool in the evolution of humans

3 years, 9 months ago

I can't help myself but agree with this, admittedly I don't know an awful lots about religion but to me it seems like religion claims to be all about love etc when actually it stops people being free (like I said I don't know much about individual religions-this is just how it seems to me).

They seem to be full of hypocrisy, ie the promote love and equality but at the same time say that certain people will go to hell etc,
then there's the obvious terrorism argument, I know not all terrorism is due to religion but it feels like the vast majority of it is. religion -> extremism -> terrorism

another point and I don't mean to offend anyone, but somwthing I've noticed is its very hard to have a debate with a religious person, they simply do not consider any other ideas and this is what I mean by religion withholding people.

3 years, 9 months ago
bcdunn7
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55% of respondents indicated that the religion of the threatened children would make no difference to their behaviour; 42% said they would be more likely to act to save their co-religionists than to save the Jewish children; and 3% swung the other way, saying they were more willing to save Jewish children than Muslim ones. When asked to consider how their God would prefer them to act, this pattern became even more pronounced. Then, 66% said religious affiliation would have no impact on their actions. Only 30% of respondents favoured the Muslim children.

Dr Ginges and his colleagues therefore raise the possibility that beliefs about God can indeed moderate the distinctions people make about the value of ?them? and ?us?, albeit that in this case those distinctions stem in the first place from different beliefs about God. This is certainly not always the case. Other studies involving Palestinians and Jews have shown that levels of attendance at collective worship are related to support for violent self-sacrifice in favour of one?s co-religionists (up to and including suicide bombing). But, for men and women of goodwill, it is a hopeful sign.

3 years, 9 months ago
bcdunn7
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A GOOD way to start an argument at a dinner party is to assert that religion divides people and inspires them to evil. There is plenty to support this contention: anti-Muslim pogroms by Hindus in India; the bombings and murders carried out by anti-abortion Christians in America; the long list of crimes committed against Christians (and Zoroastrians, Yazidis, non-Sunni Muslims and anyone else who disagrees with them) by Islamic State. But there is a good case for the defence, too. Around the world the religious shelter the homeless, feed the hungry and perform all sorts of charitable works.

Trading anecdotes, though, is unlikely to convince anyone. Much better to do an experiment. And that, in a small way, is exactly what a team led by Jeremy Ginges, a psychologist at the New School for Social Research in New York, has just done.

As part of some broader public-opinion polling, Dr Ginges and his colleagues presented 555 Palestinian youngsters, between the ages of 11 and 18, with a classic ethical dilemma known as the trolley problem. Participants were invited to imagine a runaway lorry (railways and their attendant trolleys being rare in Gaza and the West Bank) careering down a street. If no action is taken, the lorry will plough into a group of five children, killing them. But if an innocent bystander is pushed in front of the lorry its progress will be halted and the children saved?at the expense of the bystander?s life.

So far, so standard. But Dr Ginges gave the question?to push or not to push?a religious twist. His participants were Muslim, and most were personally religious (more than 80% reported praying regularly). He presented them with two versions of the thought experiment. In one, the endangered children were fellow Muslims. In the other, they were Jews. In both, the sacrificial victim was a Palestinian of unspecified religion. He then asked his young volunteers to consider, in each case, how one ought to act?and then how they thought God would want people to act.

Dr Ginges?s idea was to test a common theory, that one reason religion promotes violence is because it leads its adherents to view those of different faiths, or none, as inferior. If such an effect were real, he reasoned, the Palestinian territories ought to be good places to find it.

His results, which have just been published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, will bring some cheer to fans of religion. When asked to consider just their own opinions, 55% of re

3 years, 9 months ago
PsychDave
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U don't automatically disagree with you, I give my opinion. I also back up my opinions with logic and evidence. As sosocratese said, if you just want people to agree with you, you are in the wrong place.

3 years, 9 months ago

how exactly has religion lessened the effects of damage to the environment?

3 years, 9 months ago

everyone knows that our environment is suffering a lot from our day 2 day activities. I m from India n religion has not put a full stop to this but surely it has lessened its harsh affect to the environment

3 years, 9 months ago
Sosocratese
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Haha, did you really just tell someone to stop disagreeing with you on a debating app? I think you're in the wrong place if all you want is to have your opinions reaffirmed....

3 years, 9 months ago

he isn't wrong. I dislike religion as well. but churches have done alot of good in the world. now I am inclined to agree that the bad out ways the good. but that doesn't mean we should ignore the good entirely.

3 years, 9 months ago

I discredit everything you say Dave. Now stop disagreeing with every post you see from me and others.

3 years, 9 months ago

Many charities are started and primarily supported by religious groups. Religion can be a positive influence and can prompt people to think of and help others.

3 years, 9 months ago
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