There is no God

October 26, 2018, 3:51 am

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The debate "There is no God" was started by Big_Tuna on October 26, 2018, 3:51 am. 52 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 116 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

TheExistentialist posted 4 arguments, TJ posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
NitinTher posted 1 argument, Jakellutis posted 3 arguments, jrardin12 posted 3 arguments to the disagreers part.

Big_Tuna, TheExistentialist, crispsandchips, astatine, Emihle, US7, Debater23, TJ, byniched, JDAWG9693, Argnier555 and 41 visitors agree.
x1nyan, NitinTher, bhnf, Runtz, Aryaman999, Matt, Jakellutis, Dushonjj2, csmithwick, Tushar, Kanwal, letsgobro, jrardin12, wilsoergel76, davidjohnson1953, WiseWords and 100 visitors disagree.

csmithwick
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what flaws do you believe the bible has? so what your saying is then, you dont believe in death?

1 month, 3 weeks ago
TJ
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The bible has many flaws so it may not be real. Some of the passages wouldn't last in science courses and I do not believe that a human could defy such things and then disappear and abandon us completely

1 month, 3 weeks ago
csmithwick
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bible*

1 month, 3 weeks ago

How can there be no god if there was thousands of eyewitness accounts proving that jesus walked the earth and performed the mircles the bibal said he did therefore proving the existence of god?

1 month, 3 weeks ago
TheExistentialist
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"You will get your proof that everything was created by a conscious being that is God when you show your proof that everything was created by the effect of something that does not have impulse and lacks the necessary variables to create anything."
Are you implying that you have proof? If you do, you would likely be the most famous theologian of all time. If not, I'd have to accuse you of lying about your quality of evidence and that in fact you have no proof only faith.

The LISA experiments at LIGO have already detected gravity waves from the exact moment of T=0. As for anything "prior" to that (for lack of a better term), the only honest answer is "We don't know". Any claim to the contrary is simply ignorant. However, there are some really good hypothesis that are being explored including the use of the quantum-corrected Raychaudhuri equation, which is derived from quantum-corrected Friedmann equations, which describe the expansion and evolution of universe (including the Big Bang) within the context of general relativity. This hypothesis, if proven correct, would indicate a infinitely existing universe rather than a T=0 universe. This would mean the universe was never "created" in the first place and no "God" would be necessary for it's "creation".

1 month, 3 weeks ago
Nemiroff
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or I could just come to the conclusion that we dont know without making guessed.

a few hundred years ago we had no explanation for lightning, but now it's easy. 2000 years ago every natural event was ruled by God. now only creation is beyond our understanding, and that may just be a matter of time

1 month, 4 weeks ago

No, but you'd have less basis for the belief that something that is non physical and non conscious existed based on the existence of matter and acted without impulse.

1 month, 4 weeks ago
Nemiroff
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so if I can't show a natural explanation of how things can be created from nothing then that means God is correct, by default, without any proof of its own?

1 month, 4 weeks ago

You will get your proof that everything was created by a conscious being that is God when you show your proof that everything was created by the effect of something that does not have impulse and lacks the necessary variables to create anything.

1 month, 4 weeks ago

Well it came from God's Word which is the Bible.

2 months ago
Nemiroff
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I never heard that story from God, only human priests and human believers.

2 months ago

But if everything was not created in 6 days. Then God would be a liar.

2 months ago
Nemiroff
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where is your proof there are no unicorns?
how about leprechauns? gnomes? trolls? anything?

you can't prove something doesnt exist. you cant prove any negative statement. those are logical impossibilities my friend.

God is a matter of faith. there is no way to prove or disprove anything about him. but what we do know is the methods by which he worked. the methods discovered by science. I can guarantee you the universe was not created in 7 earth days, and is certainly far older then 6000 years. those are positive statements we can prove.

2 months ago

Where is their proof that there is no God?

2 months ago

Jake where's your proof of that statement?

2 months ago

You can't say for certain that there is no God as it is more likely that there is a God than vice versa.

2 months ago

Psshhh you can totally have a devil without a god... They're both imaginary so you can have an imaginary devil.

2 months ago
Nemiroff
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you can't have the devil without a God. they go hand in hand.

no God = no devil

2 months ago
Nemiroff
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I love it when people say "I rest my case" before anyone gets a chance to even make a reply.

the sign of a strong argument (lmao)

2 months ago

precious... not everyone has a religion.... not everyone worships something...

2 months ago

If there was no God whom will a person worship to"who knows what".
Its seems to me that u don't know your religion.
Well if u are saying that there is no God that means you worship the devil.
If u didn't know that the devil to u will now be your God.
So if u didn't realize you are worshipping a god let me tell u that u are worshipping a god.
If it is not the Lord Almighty,an idol or a spirit there has to be another one which would be the devil so I assure you that everyone has a God.

I now rest my case.Thank You.

2 months ago

And you claimed I did not understand that a negative statement could be proved correct when I did so I was just defending myself.

2 months, 3 weeks ago

But you agree with the statement. So that's why I made that assumption.

2 months, 3 weeks ago
TheExistentialist
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well, the argument just has to be framed to one of likelihood/probability rather than definitives.
"Lol I think it is you who does not understand."
if you read my first comment I fully limit my argument to one of probability. I'm not the author of the claim just the first argument, so please don't conflate my argument with the original claim.

2 months, 3 weeks ago
Nemiroff
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I'm confused

2 months, 3 weeks ago

Lol that's my point. You just stated a negative statement without proof haha. People have no evidence there are gods and you have no proof that there are no gods. Lol I think it is you who does not understand.

2 months, 3 weeks ago

you are fully mad

2 months, 3 weeks ago
TheExistentialist
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Prove a negative???? That makes absolutely no sense.

you can't prove a negative. If you don't believe this basic tenant of logic, please prove that there are no Unicorns, that there is no Thor, Mars, or Zeus etc.... Logically the best you can do is state that the likelihood of any of these things existing is very low due to a lack of evidence for their existence and due to the presence of more plausible alternatives. In the case of Thor for example; while there is no proof that the god of thunder doesn't exist, the fact that we know how thunder can occur in the absence of divine influence, it is much more likely that Thor isn't the cause of thunder and that he is likely not to exist at all. The same goes for the Christian God, the Jewish God, the Muslim God, etc...

2 months, 4 weeks ago

You have proof to back up that negative statement?

2 months, 4 weeks ago

There seems to be no real evidence for God and thus it is unlikely that there is one.

2 months, 4 weeks ago
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