There's only one god

October 3, 2017, 7:35 pm

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The debate "There's only one god" was started by dreclean on October 3, 2017, 7:35 pm. 28 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 13 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

Ben23 posted 3 arguments, historybuff posted 1 argument, kill_all_idiots posted 3 arguments to the agreers part.


dreclean, Ben23, binoykrtudu, AyYildiz05 and 24 visitors agree.
DrakeVonSchweetz, lito, FrankFlank and 10 visitors disagree.

Nemiroff
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god cant be proven to exist.
God can't be proven not to exist.

it's a matter of faith. discussing it is useless, but it can be fun... unless it's sacrilege.

2 years, 1 month ago
Nemiroff
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although I acknowledge that it would be intellectually dishonest to declare that god definitely doesn't exist, I can confidently say that I believe he does not. I consider myself an atheist.

Also, if we aren't discussing the direct existence of God or general validity of a faith, I have no problem with discussing religious matters with the presumption that god exists and that religion is accurate, whether it's Christianity or Hinduism. I love learning about other faiths and cultures and will even paraphrase scripture to make my case. I will usually be defending unorthodox interpretations based on the values of many cultures and how I believe a supreme good being would act. I venerate the teachings of Christ, but am highly critical of Christianity as practiced. whether he is human or divine, if his words are represented accurately, he is amongst the greatest humanitarians and moral ethicist in human history.

I believe in the human spirit. I believe humanity has been on a steady path of betterment since history began, and the killing will continue to slow until it stops. not all battles have to be waged in blood. any difference that can be settled on the battlefield can be settled at a table. which is why discussing opinions and the reasons for holding those opinions is vital. just because it isn't fact doesn't mean it can't be a powerful idea that one has not thought of yet. one that is worth considering. unless of course the retort is fact.... fact wins, although interpretations can also vary and require debate.

2 years, 1 month ago
kill_all_idiots
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Very strong feeling that you are agnostic. You don't have to share its understandable. Also as you said in the last paragraph not all of us agree and some have died over it (paraphrasing) is true. Some have which proves that not all of us have the exact same ideals as others. correct?

2 years, 1 month ago
Nemiroff
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juvenile has less to do with the subject matter and more to do with the debate style. we can have a very serious debate about which superhero is stronger and at the same time have a juvenile debate about economics where both sides just insult each other without making relavent points.

Also, debating religion can be much more fact based. debating god on the other hand is completely philosophical and opinion.

religion is mundane and historic. god is purely ethereal and spiritual. I would never deny with certainty the existence of some sort of god, but I can make a compelling case against any organized religion... heck religions can't even agree within themselves. you said your christian... Catholics, orthodox, and the vast number of different protestants have killed each other over their disagreements (not that other faiths or faithless are any different). the whole subject of theology is based on arguing about religion.

2 years, 1 month ago
kill_all_idiots
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I was talking about any debates which subject is religion is juvenile. When a person, no matter who they are, states an opinion over and over they begin to see it as facts. Finally, no I'm not saying that anything is wrong with people stating and comparing their opinions. I just find this debate a very old and dying one. Also I'm a Christian. ( that's for anybody wondering.)

2 years, 1 month ago
Nemiroff
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it's never weak and juvenile if it's kept civil. it's a philosophical debate, they aren't meant to be a nothing more than opinions. Is any debate about mundane ethics anything more than opinion either?

is there something wrong with comparing opinions and the reasons for them?

2 years, 1 month ago

This seems very week and juvenile. Arguing over the existence of God. This argument goes on forever because this isn't an argument these are opinions.

2 years, 1 month ago
Nemiroff
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"Yes, not three gods as the Christians believe or many gods as the Hindu believe."

based on this it seems you are not christian. which faith do you believe In if any?

2 years, 1 month ago
Nemiroff
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interesting argument for the existence of the creator, but I find that both the problem and the solution can be reversed as well.

if all things need to come from something, where did god come from? from nothing? and if you have something like god always existing, why can't that be applied to the universe, like a perpetual bigbang/bigcrunch pattern, or an everlasting megaverse in which big bangs regularly occur.

of course god is always a valid answer, it no longer appears to be the only option, and often raises more questions.

furthermore, if you do have something spontaneously existing or the default original, why would that initial existence be something as complex as a sentient consciousness instead of a basic matter/energy?

2 years, 1 month ago

It depends on the persons religion, christians believe in monotheism while Hindus believe in polytheism.

2 years, 1 month ago
Ben23
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matches the criteria*

2 years, 1 month ago
Ben23
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We accept the possibility of life forms in other planets because its very probable considering the millions of galaxies that exist= the large amount probability.

The idea of God that he is a being that created everything because we (those who believe) understand that 0 does not = 1 , meaning something can't come out of nothing without something already have existed. The universe had a beginning therefore its finite, so something must have always existed before. God as we believe says he always existed and he is everlasting, hence he matches that analogy. God also says he created everything from nothing another criteria of the description of something before the universe. If we take step by step of what would explain our existence it will always point towards a creator a god, you can't even bring up any other scenario without something contradictory other than the concept of god.

2 years, 1 month ago

that didn't make sense.

2 years, 1 month ago
blue_rayy
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And there's no evidence of 'no evidence'

2 years, 1 month ago

there's no evidence that there is any God. so how can you possibly say how many there are?

2 years, 1 month ago

Yes, not three gods as the Christians believe or many gods as the Hindu believe.

2 years, 1 month ago
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