The debate "Transgenders are a part of our society and they are humans to so don't judge them for who they are" was started by
May 13, 2016, 4:58 pm.
21 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 20 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.
Nemiroff posted 7 arguments, PaintedGalaxy12 posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
thereal posted 5 arguments to the disagreers part.
llemponen, paradox, carocupit, RyanWakefield, Julia_lee, why, SwaggerPoptart, debatingdalek, PaintedGalaxy12, danielle and 11 visitors agree.
Claystation, Bodaciouslady16, moneybagboyz123, Airish, Yanksxx21, sabrina, thereal, The13yearoldconservative, RealCaffNasty and 11 visitors disagree.
I'm saying there is a debate to be had over whether it should be considered a mental illness, not endorsing one side or the other. Are you that afraid of having a discussion on the subject? You can't even accept me agreeing with you on a point without bickering.
If you want to discuss whether it should remain classified as a mental illness, feel free to create the topic. I haven't looked into it extensively, so I don't know which way I would vote yet, I just remembered thay it was classified as one from university.
think its strange were still share toilets publicly anyway lol ?
you literally repeated the same words twice because you forgot you said it while ranting... I'm not sure where you got the nerve strike from, nothing in your argument offended me, it mostly just made me laugh.
and I even separated the point for you instead of hiding it in a rant wall.
"they want to switch the physical to match the mind, because the mind is much harder to change."
it's amazing how you still missed it.
In response to PsychDave, yes it is a mental illness and ahould continue to be classified as one. There are people who identify as all sorts of things so should they all be accepted? NO. Just the other day i saw a documentary on Youtube about a 35 year old man who identifies as a 6 year old girl....he even dresses in pink dresses and plays with dolls etc. Are you sayi g its bot a mental illness? Because it is the same thing as what is the case with trannies.
Actually, since all you did was get offended and present no argument, im guessing its because i struck a nerve. maybe youve come to a realisation about yourself. the truth is harsh, nemiroff.
Nemiroff, its not a useless rant. youre simply too much of a sibling-f***er to be able to comprehend a sentence that is more than 4 words. Your ability to successfully understand statements and questions doednt go much far beyond the "what is your name?" and "how old are you?" mark. My entire argument was enriched with logic and thats all you can say in response? Youre not even on my level, i could be your teacher and you would be a student in special needs. lil dumbass bitch.
isn't gender dysphoria the mismatch between mind and body that is corrected through the physical transition?
In this case, thereal has a valid point. The DSM does recognize gender dysphoria as a mental illness. The debate over whether it should be remains though.
you said the "if it's in the mind, why do they need to switch the physial" twice. in the begging, and the end.
the only thing worse then a text wall is one that repeats itself in a useless rant.
they want to switch the physical to match the mind, because the mind is much harder to change.
how are they mentally ill? many of them are extremely intelligent, cultured, and enjoyable people. just because they want to act different than you they must be deranged? how would you feel if someone said you were deranged? cause I kinda feel like you are just angry at as many people as you can. that isn't normal either. shall we flip the mirror? are you mentally ill? anger issues? napoleonic complex? edipus complex?
Transgenderism does cause direct harm because firstly, it is retarded because if "gender is in the mind", then why do physical transformations have to take place in order for a person to be classed as transgender? Secondly, transgenderism is a mental illness, soecifically identity disorder. It is not a genetic issue,therefore it is a mental one. That being said, mentally ill people should not be encouraged to indukdge in their mental instabilities because it simply makes it worse. For example when people have OCD and cant touch dirty things, the treatment is that they are made to hold dirty things for a certain period of time which increases with each time it is done. They are not told to walk around in a head to tie nuclear labsuit. The same should be done with trannies, they should be made to accept who they are.
Thirdly, trannies cause a whole lot of issues in society in general. They want to go to toilets they dont belong to, for example. Ome particukar issue with that is if "gender is in the mind", then people shouldnt have to have physical transformations done jn order to be classed as transgender. Guess what that means? that means that men who know that they are men can easily lie and say they identify as a female in order to get into the ladies toilets and impede on privacy. Restrooms are very private places and their sanctity has to be maintained. Trump is doing great so far and he should slowly start rolling back the "rights" that these mutant pervs have.
when your choices harm others in illegal ways, you get punished. if there is no direct harm, then personal choices should be respected.
Historybuff, youre a retard so stop trying to act smart. whore. in terms of the debate itself, murderers and other criminals are also human and part of society so are you saying they should not be judged either? the fact that "theyre also human" was even used as an argument shows how aids liberal logic truely is.
does part of that disagreement involve voting for legislation that negatively affects their ability to pursue happiness?
In my opinion, they can pretend to be whoever they want to be as long as they don't label anyone who disagrees with them as a "transphobic bigot".
I agree that even if they choose to be one Gender over the other, they in all fairness, are still living, breathing human beings. who cares if they were originally a boy and now a girl? or the opposite. they still have as much as a right as any of us and, conclusion, should and must be treated with respect.
What judge them? I wanna give dickgirls a blowjob for who they are.
there is no Democrat policy. the new policy that sparked the current form of this debate was made by Republicans regulating who can or cannot use certain bathrooms.
-I do not treat any transgender different than anyone else. This transgender "issue" has gotten out of hand.
-The president wants schools to allow children to use the bathroom, showers, and lockers according to their identity that they chose, and they try to black mail schools and states. Not okay! This will create all new sorts of problems.
-People can become transgender if they want. I cannot stop them. I honestly do not care. It is just the ignorant democratic policies that get me mad.
as long as they don't hurt anyone, who cares. same as the opposition to gay marriage, the right trying to use government to oppress freedom. isn't that what conservatives are supposed to be against?
they go their whole lives feeling that they are one gender and society tells them something else. they are doing what they have to in the "pursuit of happiness". what could be more American that that? you want them to stay trapped in a body the feel they don't belong in to avoid having to feel a small level of discomfort. the truth is that it doesn't even affect you so you are just trying to force your views on them out of selfishness.
-They are people who are "uncomfortable" with their body, so they go change it. They feel comfortable now. However, they are a gender fluid freak, and they see society does not fit them. Therefore, they try to change everything and force being transgender is ok down everybodies throats. Not that hard genius...
no it really isn't. your inability to understand a complicated issue does not make it simple.
-Transgender is not who they are however. They are either a man or a woman. It is pretty straightfoward.