Trump = agree Clinton = disagree

May 19, 2016, 1:57 pm

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The debate "Trump = agree Clinton = disagree" was started by sabrina on May 19, 2016, 1:57 pm. 9 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 10 people are on the disagree side. People are starting to choose their side. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

dalton7532 posted 11 arguments to the agreers part.
Nemiroff posted 12 arguments to the disagreers part.

sabrina, MrShine, bigB, dalton7532, Austin7779, josh_rocks, SwaggerPoptart and 2 visitors agree.
sickboyblonde, mohasan, ReadyToBegin, Nemiroff and 6 visitors disagree.

Nemiroff
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yeah, "where coal mining jobs are prominent" is a region, a location.

she wants to send bill in to revitalize the economy in that LOCATION, but not necessarily with same old coal.

the old difference between what I said and you said is that I would have used "where coal mining jobs USED TO BE prominent", cause I'm pretty sure they've already been disappearing for a while already.

and the word capitalism in my other post was a mistake, basic market forces is more appropriate.

3 years ago

coal is dead, it wasn't tax or regulation, it was natural gas and basic capitalism.

and anyone who actually worked in a mine should be happy. between long term lung disease and cave collapse instant death, coal jobs were horrible.

they paid well and that's why Hillary is sending bill in to fix the situation and make sure the workers are not screwed. cause that's who the left cares about. the citizens, not the for profit companies.

3 years ago
dalton7532
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No, Coal Country is a term used where coal mining jobs are prominent.

3 years ago
Nemiroff
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I though "coal country" was in reference to the region where coal jobs used to be. not the actual coal industry.

3 years ago
dalton7532
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-I listened to part of it. All I heard was Hillary was going to put Bill to help with coal country. I thought that mean he was going to revitalize it. I could be wrong.

3 years ago

I'm not sure if you misunderstood, did you actually listen to the speech?

or just the misquoted soundbites the propaganda machine cranks out?

the propaganda machine exists on the left too, it's not an anti right point. it's a point to think critically and never trust out of context quotes or 15 second sound bites.

3 years ago

-I may have misunderstood what she said during the Kentuck speech.

3 years ago

not sure what that has to do with the coal issue, but her husband was a 2 term president. I would hope she would seek his counsel and assistance.

he was also bipartisanly popular.

3 years ago
dalton7532
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bill-clinton-charge-revitalizing-economy-hillary-clinton/story?id=39132832

3 years ago
Nemiroff
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you brought up the coal mine flip flop. I responded with:

when did she say she was going to expand coal?

she said something along the lines of she will make sure coal workers won't suffer because of this change by building up other industries and or making coal companies help their workers through the transition within THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE of that quote.

if that is what you meant as "expanding coal country" then no contradiction.

we kinda went off on a tangent so can you address this?

3 years ago
dalton7532
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-Yes, Trump backtracked on the abortion statements. I admit it!
-Hillary has flip flopped on way more issues than Trump, not only that but she lied about it. She is a pathological liar who says anything to get a vote.

3 years ago

back to trump, that abortion switcharoo showed both a flip flop and a horrible lack of knowledge of a major issue.

3 years ago
dalton7532
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ok.what should the thread be named?

3 years ago

or rather let's get back to trump and maybe start a separate thread about that

3 years ago

pick one, and please elaborate

3 years ago

ok?

3 years ago
Nemiroff
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ambiguous *

3 years ago
Nemiroff
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rather than an ambitious list, how about we go deeper into any one of those and pull out some actual numbers and/or context.

3 years ago
dalton7532
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-Foreign policy was not successful. China, Russia, North Korea, and terrorism is running a muck.
-The economy is not doing good.
-The ACA is terrible.
-He threatened to defund the military if he did not get his way. That is not a action of a leader.
-The Iran Nuclear Deal is terrible.
-Illegal immigration is a mess, and we should not be accepting Syrian refugees.
-He uses unconstitutional executive orders, and always threatens to use it. "I'll get my pen and paper"
-Racial issues in America got worse, and I can go on ans on.

3 years ago

back to trump, that abortion switcharoo showed both a flip flop and a horrible lack of knowledge of a major issue.

3 years ago

the highest economic recovery among first world nations world wide.

successful foreign policy.

record stock markets and corporate profits.

how exactly was he bad?

3 years ago

-Obama did a terrible job as president.

3 years ago

Hillary will be Obama with balls (I hope)

3 years ago

-Trump has some common sense and Hillary has none. Hillary's policies will ruin America and everything it stands for.

3 years ago
Nemiroff
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when did she say she was going to expand coal?

she said something along the lines of she will make sure coal workers won't suffer because of this change by building up other industries and or making coal companies help their workers through the transition within THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE of that quote.

if that is what you meant as "expanding coal country" then no contradiction.

3 years ago
dalton7532
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-Hillary said she was going to put coal miners out of business, but now she says she is going to expand coal country and put bill clinton in charge to revitalize the industry. Is there anything RIGHT with that? She is a corrupt and pathological liar who says anything to get a vote. Admit it.

3 years ago
Nemiroff
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that's a pretty major issue, one would think he would have thought it through before hand.

and you think his "thinking it through" had nothing to do with the instant bipartisan backlash? -.-

3 years ago
dalton7532
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-He said if abortions were illegal, and then I guess he thought what he said was wrong so he went back on it. There is nothing wrong with that.

3 years ago

I'm sure a business man creates jobs, for profit. that's a bit different than when a politician gets it done on a structural level.

3 years ago
Nemiroff
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I loved it when he declared women should be punished for getting an abortion, and then backed out hours later.

that had to be a record.

3 years ago

-He actually created hundreds of jobs. I find it how you trust Hillary more than you Trump kind of weird. Hillary lies to you and to everyone. She says anything to get a vote.

3 years ago
Nemiroff
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I do like hillary, but that is irrelevant, I do not trust trump. I've cited my reasoning, he has screwed everyone else around him consistently. the fact that he makes himself richer does not impress me.

3 years ago
dalton7532
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-I can disagree. She lied in court, and she knew not to use a private email server.
Putting scandals aside, why do you think Hillary is better than Trump? Let's have a discussion.

3 years ago
Nemiroff
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all those scandals are bull. only Benghazi and the emails are real and in either case she didn't do anything wrong.

3 years ago

-Hillary Clinton is a pathological liar. She can be seen lying 13 minutes straight. She says anything to get a vote. She has been involved in numerous scandals. Her policies are literally stupid and she will rip America into shreds. Trump is by far the better choice for president.

3 years ago
Nemiroff
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just cause he's winning doesn't mean he's the better choice. God help us.

3 years ago

-Clinton is a pathological liar, and she says anything to get a vote. She is literally falling apart. Her average in polls against Trump went from 8 to 3.3 points. Trump is leading two of the newest polls that came out. It is really tight in three of the key swing states, with Trump leading in one of them.
-Trump may not say the nicest things to people, including men and women, but I think he is the best choice for America.
-Make America Great Again!

3 years ago
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