The debate "Trump didnt assault anyone. it was the opposition who made the accuse. we cant say for sure" was started by
October 21, 2016, 11:22 pm.
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Blue_ray, Yanksxx21, jack_tim_45, sabrina, Tobibroek and 6 visitors agree.
I agree but disagree that it was confession
I don't think anyone here is saying that they know for certain that trump has sexually assaulted women. I'm saying that it is extremely likely given the evidence. And a taped confession is pretty damning evidence.
Now if it's good evidence and you are confindent that join it
I challenged to a debate to give all your evidence in one place to clean it up
well at least my assumptions about you were accurate. you ask for evidence. I provided evidence. you insult me and dismiss the evidence. exactly what I assumed a trump supporter would do.
Next time stay on topic of the argument
Buff the only evidence you've shown me is that you're an idiot.
I show evidence for all of these claims. he is a racist for saying and doing racist things. all mexican immigrants are rapists, not letting black people live in his buildings etc.
he's a sexist when he says and does sexist things. he dismissed a woman who questioned him by saying she must have been on her period. he admitted on tape that he enjoys sexually assaulting women.
he's xenophobic for trying to blame outsiders for America's problems. ie. Mexican immigrants, refugees, trade deals with China. it's not that America has problems it's foreigners causing problems. that is xenophobia.
a) I do not support either canidate so no I am not blinded what I'm saying is he shouldn't have said it and it should be taken in account but it shouldn't be the only means to condemn a man. when the witch trails were happening people blamed there neighbors of being witch's so they could get there land and there would obviously be very little evidence but they were still condemned.
b) one mistake fine let me research it with my own eyes and I will believe it. but she has made several and let's say thy are just innocent mistakes. do u really want a president who could accidentally put us in the worst situation in American history?not saying she would but with somone so "accident" prone do u really want them to be president?
He is not a racist, sexist, xenophobic, so how about you stop making basless claim that left idiots push for, and once being some intelligence, reason, and evidence to show for it.
I have only defended hilary when people have made baseless accusations, Which on here is pretty much constantly. I have never thought she was the best candidate, bernie was clearly better. And would certainly not defend her to the death. What exactly are you referring to that i am defender her from?
And as dave said, he has confessed on tape. You have heard the admission that he enjoys sexually assaulting women come from his own mouth. And you still assume that anyone who says he did what he says he has done is a liar. That is extremely disturbing. Your need for trump to be the man he claims to be is blinding you to the overwhelming evidence that he is racist, xenophobic, lecher.
I'm sure there are, which is exactly what people said about Bill Cosby's accusers.
I am not assuming they are telling the truth. I am saying the fact that he is on tape saying he does it lends credibility to people claiming that he has.
I'm curious what accusation against Hillary Clinton you mean. She has been thoroughly investigated for years and the Republicans have found nothing to incriminate her with. They have found things she shouldn't have done, but nothing criminal. If you have a new accusation I'd be interested in hearing it, but if it's more of Trump's dribble about locking her up you don't need to bother since, as I said, she has been investigated for years.
never on being sued in the rest and like I said I would be with them in an outrage that he did this if it's true but u can't deny there are people who would say it just to get the attention if we sift through them and even if only one is telling the truth then Trump should go down but u are just assuming there telling the truth while I'm asking for more evidence.
@buff never mind on the Clinton question u pretty much answered it.
by the way it's funny how u are all ready to jump on trump but u defend Hilary to the death
I'm curious how you think you would have believed them earlier, but not now. Once he is on tape saying he would do it, why does that make them less credible that he did?
I strongly suspect that had they come out 6 weeks ago, people would say that it was a lie and that they were trying to sabotage his run for presidency. A few months before that they would have been accused of trying to keep him from getting the nomination. Earlier than that and they would have been after fame and/or money. There was never a time when they were on equal footing with him, so when do you feel they should have come forward to be insulted, ridiculed and potentially sued?
this is exactly the same thing that happened with Bill Cosby. once one thing triggers it alot of victims come forward.
in this case a video of him admitting he likes to sexually assault women came out and he swore he had never done that. so the women he had done that to began to come forward.
There is really no definitive answer to this, I hope and it's my opinion that he didnt. At this moment of time there is no proof that he did other than accusations, if he at some point is proven guilty than so be it I was wrong.
if they had told me this before the video or when he ran for president I would of 100? believed them because they had no reason to lie but now they do so idk on if what they say is true also I'm interested that u didn't use Clinton as an example
victims of sexual assault often don't report it because they feel they will be blamed or not believed. exactly what trump supporters are doing.
this effect is intensified when the perpetrator is famous or wealthy because people will naturally defend them. look at bill Cosby. lots of people accused his victims of lying until the weight of evidence couldn't be denied by anyone.
this effect is intensified further when the perpetrator has a reputation of lashing out at any perceived slight no matter how minor. a man who tries to sue anyone who says anything bad about them, like trump.
I agree on the bad president part but I question why only now they come out and not when it happened. to me it seems they just want to get on the news but I could be wrong
Just like in many other cases of celebrities. Like Bill Cosby. And they didn't come forward after the tape of him saying he liked to grab women by the genitals without permission. They came forward after he denied ever having done it.
As I said on another thread, I don't know for sure that he did it. But his behaviour and language demonstrate that he is not capable of being a successful president.
Why would you doubt that he didn't?
If we look a these accusations coming out AFTER the tape its just as easy to create these women who were assaulted...What happened to innocent until proven guilty as the left is very hypocritical of this.
be said on tape that he enjoys sexually assaulting women. why would anyone doubt the accusations against him when he has already admitted he does this?
he denies actually doing it and we don't have evidence that he did so I guess he is innocent until proven guilty but I am suspicious just like I am with Hilary.also it was a horrid thing to say and really hurt him in the running