The debate "Trump is racist" was started by
March 19, 2016, 5:06 pm.
24 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 12 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.
PsychDave posted 16 arguments, Pugsly posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
miloisonfire posted 1 argument, fadi posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.
Tbh, PsychDave, historybuff, R_o_h_i_t, RyanWakefield, Anthony, lawyerlady, Upbeatethan, president, danielle, Pugsly, lucylou15, Sumerian, BlueMouse, Band_Nerd_24 and 9 visitors agree.
fuckyoubitch, ProudAmerican888, ChemicalReject, rob5998, oscar90000, fadi, Maximus and 5 visitors disagree.
them jews are the problem. they come over here take the jobs and force germans out on the street. they forced us to lose the great war. they come all over the place they're rapist, murders, and they want to destroy us. yeah hitler wasn't rasist he was just telling the truth.
Then could you explain his comments on Jews and black people?
trump is not racist it is just that he is saying the truth
Beyond that, how does this contribute to a debate on whether or not Trump is racist?
Just because one person makes a claim doesn't make it true. If two people make opposite claims on the record, that doesn't mean that they are both true. It is the very definition of a conspiracy theory because you believe in the theory that they are involved in a conspiracy. None of it has been proven.
You haven't even offered any arguments, just said I should do your research for you. I asked who you believe they had killed. You said to look into the dixie mafia. I have, but it has yet to be proven that they are involved. That is why it's a theory. Do you have any facts to contribute or will you continue to feel that proving the wild accusations you make is beneath you?
Damn this conversation got heated. Maximus, you really should try to chill a bit, a hot head isn't admired. And Dave, I have the answer to the possible theory, consider the following :
A One dollar bill
A Two dollar bill
A Five dollar bill
A Ten dollar bill
a Hundred dollar bill
Bill Clinton has bills,
Hillary Clinton Has Bill Clinton
Hillary Clinton has Bill's Bills
Hillary Clinton needs money to pay Bill's Bills
Hillary asks bill to hand over some bills
Bill is billed and pays his bills with many different bills
Hillary bills bill so that Bill's Bills can cover the bills taken to cover bills of bribery.
.... Using the power of alliteration and repetition I rest my case. Though I don't actually believe a conspiracy theory that deep, that takes a lot of screen time.
Do having looked into the Clinton's conspiracy theories (including the body count listings) and looked at their connection to the Dixie mafia, I'm not sure what you thought it would prove. There are a lot of conspiracy theories out there and very little evidence. There is a reason they have not been charged or convicted of anything.
I can certainly agree that there have been quite a few deaths of people connected to Clintons. That doesn't mean there is a conspiracy though, as they are connected to many, many people. Not every reporter who has attacked them has died. Not everyone who has "exposed" them has been killed. If they had, you wouldn't know that anything had happened.
I do agree that Bill Clinton's brother is a criminal, but that is also public record. Blame does not pass to all relatives for the crimes of one individual.
Without more evidence, they are just people making up stories. They can't say what did happen, only what could have. Donald Trump could have killed prostitutes in his spare time and disposed of the body by dumping them in the ocean. He hasn't, but since there can be no evidence to prove he hasn't the theory could be put forward. That is what these conspiracy theorists have done. They took a bunch of events and connected them with stories they made up that paint the Clintons as monsters. They cannot have controlled all of the media, and they wouldn't have the power to stifle everyone in the media, especially before becoming president.
I will consider the theory if you can present a persuasive argument for how Clinton had all those people killed without ever being caught.
Great, but we do provide references when we make a claim. We don't just say something and expect you to believe us. Be just like that and things will go significantly smoother.
The reason I asked now is because it generally takes a few hours to get you to provide anything but insults and claims that you are winning. This time it only took about 3.5 hours to get you go to give any kind of information. In those intervening hours, I could have looked into it, but you didn't back up. You just played the victim that I wasn't taking your word that a former president and current presidential candidate are responsible for conspiracies and murders without either of them ever being charged or convicted.
i'm not doing all the work.. i'm gonna be like the little bleeding heart liberals here.. i am gonna negate, nullyify, disqualify and say "give proof, not just your opinion" to everything.
So, i'll be honest. I'm not going to give you info and you nullify it, downplay it, say when you have time when you are asking me to give the info now.. What sense does that make?
You need to work on your literacy skills. I said that I would look into it when I have a chance now that you did actually give enough information for me to know what you are talking about. If asking you to explain your vague accusation is asking too much, it is probably for the best that you are done, you obviously aren't cut our for debating.
you know what, you told me to give more, i did.. now it's when you have time. you arent serious about anything accept trying to nullify someone and thats all you want to do.
i offered something MORE than my opinion. DO YOU LISTEN TO DAMN THING?
ok dave. i am DONE! I don't wanna play games. if i give you something and you choose not to research it, then we are done. You opted out and ONCE AGAIN, belch air at me. So that's it.
I asked you to give something beyond your opinion. If you feel that doing so is waiting your time, you will never succeed at debating. I will look at it when I have some time.
and i'm serious, if you don't, don't even attempt to make me waste time again. i wont
And you are getting far ahead of yourself with telling me what it is.. without looking. its not some guy at a desk in his house talking. it's official stuff.
actually look up Hillary and bill clinton exposed as dixie mafia. And look if you won't do it and you want to say stuff.. then its real simplex never ask me again because i am wasting my time.
YouTube is not a source, it is a website. Who said it? Who do you believe they had killed? You didn't provide any details, just vague accusations. Support it means to back up your statement with something other than your opinion.
what does that even mean? I am telling you what has been spoken by people on record, exactly as they said it.
You stand by it but you don't support it in any way.
ymay, racists or people who don't want their country to willingly go to shit?
dave, i said what i said and i stick to it. And you can look them up on youtube.
Hard to say. He has retweeted from white supremacy accounts multiple times, but that may just be stupidity instead of racism.
He may not be racist himself, but he is undeniably #1 with racists, which says something.
Are you actually suggesting that they have had people killed? If so, you had better have something other than your opinion to support it.
For those who don't think he us racist, could you justify him saying "Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day." That statement is incredibly racist.
Protection the country from illegal immigrants who come into the country, cause crimes and steal our jobs away from us law-abiding is NOT racist. It is protection. I have no problem with legal Mexican immigrants; I find them facinating and I treat them like any other person. It is different, though, when they sneak into our country illegally. We have problems with them because they are illegal. Trump has problems with them because they are breaking the law.
Also, Trump does not want to let the Syrian Refugees into our country because we have no way of telling if they are terrorists or not. It is so easy for ISIS to sneak into our country when many other people are being let in. France took in a ton of Syrian refugees right before Paris was bombed. He is not being racist, but he is protecting the citizens of America.
All in all, Trump is not racist.
incite violence.. look up George soros. he's funding the violent protestors. And the Clintons have been around so many people that have "had accidents" or "committed suicide"
she is Dixie mafia, her and slick willy.
Honestly, I think Clinton would be better, but not by as wide a margin as I'd like. She seems to do whatever is popular, which us often what is best but not always. Trump is willing to incite violence and hate, which is worse than not actually standing for something.
Dave who do you think will be the best leader of america. Trump or Hilary. not who is harsher, but who will make a better leader.
it truly gives me goosebumps to think of Hillary Clinton winning.
I will not vote in this election. I could not vote in good conscience for either Clinton or Trump. Clinton is the lesser evil but, as I have said in other debates, I do not think she will make a good president when she beats Trump.
let me ask you, whom are you voting for?
When he said he only wanted Jews counting his money, not blacks, that was racist. Period.
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
Therefore, good or bad, if you generalize about an entire population based on race it is racist. Whether you make racist comments about multiple races is irrelevant, and not really a mark in his favor.
racism is saying another race is lower then another race correct? trump things all people are low and he alone is high (with a few exceptions). Trump states facts such as SOME Mexicans bring drugs over the border, and all illegal immigrants are crimminals.
Whether he actually believes the racist things he says, the fact that he says them is racist.
he is about as racist as most rappers are actual drug dealers.
he's an entertainer, a showman.
not that I would actually vote for a blatant liar. racist or not.
there is one race he hates, its called the "not named Donald Trump race" hr hates all races, he hates whites, blacks, muslems, catholics ect.