UFC is a stupid sport

March 6, 2016, 6:40 am

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The debate "UFC is a stupid sport" was started by danielle on March 6, 2016, 6:40 am. 9 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 21 people are on the disagree side. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

danielle posted 5 arguments to the agreers part.
Sosocratese posted 2 arguments, PoliticsAsUsual posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

danielle, RyanWakefield and 7 visitors agree.
PoliticsAsUsual, Sosocratese, MrShine, xaveragexjoesx, sgilmour2001, alex_baller, ReadyToBegin, Zuhayr, NotoriousBishop, cavs3223 and 11 visitors disagree.

UFC was just my example because that's the one everyone was talking about :)

3 years, 8 months ago

yes you're right I don't like any of them.

3 years, 8 months ago

How is MMA any different from other combat sports? What you're really saying is you dislike all combat sports. The same criticisms you're using against MMA can be applied to all combat sports. Boxing, kick boxing, wrestling, bjj, etc... are all combat sports. They are all designed to overcome an opponent through force. MMA is simply the combination of all combat sports. It's the testing ground for any combat sport as it will weed out useful from non useful techniques within any given system.

The ufc in particular has some very stringent rules about knockouts, injuries etc... And is often safer than sports like boxing. Boxing allows combatants to recover after knockdowns thus increasing the number of blows to the head a fighter may take during a given fight. In MMA, fighters are allowed to finish fights on the ground, eliminating that recovery time and the subsequent blows required for a tko. The other problem of is that of the gloves. While MMA gloves are smaller. This means two things, one, you are more likely to create cuts, second you can't punch as hard. The second is due to the fact that gloves are designed to protect the person punching, not the person being punched. Boxing gloves being much thicker, allow the person to punch harder, more often without the fear of breaking the hands (this is way a lot of people argue that bare knuckle fighting is actually safer).

So the problem is then one of appearance Vs reality. It appears that MMA is more violent than boxing because cuts involved are usually more frequent and more obvious. However, the brain trauma is a actually less.

MMA is sanctioned by state athletic commissions and thus trained referees, doctors, judges, etc.... Must be present. during any official match. No matter if it's the ufc or another local organization putting together the fights. In that sense it is no different than boxing. Your complaints about "underground cage fighting" are simply there because those fights are not sanctioned, but that would be the same for any non sanctioned boxing match, wrestling match etc... Essentially you are raising a criticism of a sanctioned sport by comparing it to its unsanctioned competitions.... Its similar to saying football is dangerous because in "pickup" games there are insufficient pads and insufficient rules to protect the players.

3 years, 8 months ago

Well some people enjoy fighting. I don't think fighting is bad as long as it's in good intent. Both fighters agree to fight each other, neither are out to kill the other, both enjoy it, and they do it for sport. A lot of people (obviously) enjoy watching the sport and the fighters get payed well no matter if they win or not. To me, nothing about the sport seems bad. Yeah the fighters get hurt, but they expect to. Yeah fighters have died doing the sport, but accidents resulting in death happen in every physical contact sport. I honestly think that teaching people (as a society) not to fight at all (no matter for sport or not) is step in the wrong direction.

3 years, 8 months ago

I think for its because, I don't think there's anything wrong with teaching people to defend themselves, but teaching people to hurt other people is bad. and then turning it into a sport that other people can watch for enjoyment??? seems pretty idiotic to me.

3 years, 8 months ago

Fighting is in our genes. Man's body is built for fist fighting. It's how we used to solve problems with each other. Just now we can use language to solve some but fighting is still apart of culture and instinct. That's how a lot of kids (mostly guys) become friends is through fighting and then mutual respect. Fighting isn't a bad thing as long as it doesn't becomes too harsh or turn into murder.

3 years, 8 months ago

I don't understand why fighting is so abhorring to some people. I am probably in an extreme minority for supporting fights any
where, so long as things don't get broken.
Traffic dispute + fistfight? good
traffic dispute +knife/blackjack/bats? Bad

People nowadays are too prideful and malicious to be unforgiving when it comes to physical fights, and it doesn't have to be this way. Teaching people that violence is our last resort is probably what brought about this, because it is perceived after a fight that both sides gave up on any chances of talking things out. It is entirely possible to have a skirmish, and settle the details later.

All sports like to test the physical abilities of a person, but putting one person against another is difficult unless there is fighting, so while sports might have aspects that test might, fighting one on one best determines skill because while teamwork is nice there is no distracting players, no running head start, no coin toss, no goal, and no ball.

Giving up isn't always the limiter. Have you ever heard of a TKO? It prevents the match from becoming too dangerous, by saying "you've sustained such losses, and now it will count against you, for falling/bleeding, it is over."

Finally, fighting is a skill, in a conflicting issue it is hoped that those prepared to fight can do so. Nobody wants a fighter to be "early retired" unless I suppose, there's that one competitive fab watching going a fighter finally finished their long-standing matches with b fighter. Undoubtedly, practiced determination in and out of the ring, the field, or even their own house is recognized and championed

3 years, 8 months ago

I never said ban it, I just said its ridiculous. I know it's all down to personal opinion but I just don't understand why anyone would want to do it. I mean what is the difference between it and underground cage fights? both willing participants, both beating the crap out of each other. I just find it surprising that such a sport is allowed and enjoyed. I for one find it incredibly uncomfortable to watch.

I'm assuming when you say football you mean American football?? which like you said has some awful Injuries but the aim of the game isn't to hurt the other person. for me I don't see a difference between fighting on tv and fighting in the street.

3 years, 8 months ago

everyone is a willing participant. it's not like football where you think your just playing a game but damaging yourself in ways that people don't even imagine when they go in.

you think it's aweful, but the participants think it's fun, and what would banning it accomplish? do you think people will stop fighting? you will just drive more people into underground fights with fewer rules and regulations.

3 years, 8 months ago

my bad, MMA is ridiculous, it's just beating each other up. I don't see how it is allowed. It's as if some one wanted to fight someone else without breaking the law so made a "sport"

I think it's awful. the injuries are horrible. I know you get injuries from other sports but this is a sort where the aim is to hurt the other person until they give up. it's horrible.

3 years, 8 months ago

Ufc is not a sport, it's an organization....MMA would be the sport.

Now, how exactly is mixed martial art a stupid sport? Isn't it the evolution of combat sports at it current peak?

3 years, 8 months ago
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