We should not have gun control

October 6, 2015, 11:41 pm

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The debate "We should not have gun control" was started by stevenchen on October 6, 2015, 11:41 pm. 16 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 28 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

Hitmenjr posted 5 arguments, Alex posted 5 arguments, bigB posted 25 arguments to the agreers part.
historybuff posted 6 arguments, tavi posted 1 argument, PsychDave posted 22 arguments, Alex posted 10 arguments, sloanstar1000 posted 1 argument, bigB posted 1 argument, Safooma1977 posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

stevenchen, Hitmenjr, Tien, bigB, ailasorecarg, dudemark, confident, AstroSpace, Dysfunctional and 7 visitors agree.
PsychDave, historybuff, tavi, Alex, sloanstar1000, brenda773, Skeetc15, Robert16, opinionsvsfacts, leprechaundances, faith, MisterScott, KyleLedford, pajrc1234, Safooma1977 and 13 visitors disagree.

We have gun control...what we need is more idiot control

4 years ago

For the record I am not the one distorting the idea. This debate is about whether or not there should be gun control. Not stricter gun control, not gun banning, not any of the other things you have suggested. All rational people, and most irrational people, agree that guns need to be controlled to some extent, they just disagree on what extent that is. You have already demonstrated that you agree gun control is needed, you just refuse to change your vote.

4 years ago

They aren't coming, they are already there and have every right to have a say in how the nation is run.

4 years ago

No we are afraid the liberals are coming.

4 years ago

Are you afraid the British are coming?

4 years ago

*from a tyrannical government

4 years ago

and the law was written so citizens can protect themselves for a tyrannical government

4 years ago

When it started there was no military. There was only volunteer militia.

4 years ago

when it was created regular citizens had the same weapons as the military (except ordinance). I think that it still applies to today

4 years ago

yes well your right to own assault rifle is questionable. The law saying you have a right to bear arms is centuries old. They clearly did not think about assault rifles when they wrote it. The most advanced weaponry took like 10 minutes to load. The possibility that a single person could kill dozens of people didn't exist. the courts could easily say that the right to bear arms only applies to rifles. Which is all that existed when the law was created.

4 years ago

Oh and yes I have my side arm when I go to class. I have been doing it for years

4 years ago

I should be allowed to buy an assault rifle because it is my right to have one (I like them as well).

4 years ago

the debate is about whether there should be any gun control at all. If you don't believe that students should be allowed to carry guns then that is gun control. So you have to vote against this debate.

4 years ago

why would someone want to buy an assult riffle? they should only sell guns for self defence.

4 years ago

you're distorting the idea to fit your argument

4 years ago

no, I will not. The gun control you want is the control of buying a specific weapon (such as an assault rifle)

4 years ago

No, I would not give car keys to a child because, just like guns, I believe that there are and need to be controls in place to make sure only those who will behave responsibly use one.

The topics not able more or less gun control, it is whether on not there should be gun control. Are you going to change your vote since you do agree that gun control is necessary?

4 years ago

and to go back a few steps... would you give a child the keys to your car?

4 years ago

more gun control will eventually lead to the banishment of guns altogether

4 years ago

You and many like you want more gun control. I'm against that idea

4 years ago

You have voted that we should not have gun control.

4 years ago

did I say gun control is bad? If I did, find the quote

4 years ago

In that case, you are agreeing that gun control is necessary, you just draw the line in a different place.

4 years ago

Like I said before, not at all

4 years ago

Alex, you have already agreed that gun control is necessary. BigB has said that there should be absolutely no gun control and that more guns means more safety. I was asking for his input.

4 years ago

No one should touch the gun unless their is someone shooting at you

4 years ago

Yes because having a gun, no one touching it is very dangerous, it might shoot itself.

4 years ago

did students on campus should NEVER have gun answer your question?

4 years ago

I wouldn't want guns around children at all. It is not a matter of not trusting the teacher. Having guns present increases the risk of accidents. I thought that was clear from how I responded earlier. Does that explain it simply enough for you or do I need to break it down further for you?

Now how about you return the favor by answering my question. Do you believe we should arm the children so that there there will be more good guys with guns?

4 years ago

We need TEACHERS to have an option to have a gun with them. Students, on campus should NEVER have a gun.

4 years ago

No what is that chance? not very high.

4 years ago

no, you are misinterpreting it. Not just one teacher would be armed, others would have the chance to prevent a massacre. And no you still didn't answer my question? Let me ask again, if you can't trust a teacher with a firearm then why would you trust a teacher with your child's mind?

4 years ago

Let's follow your logic to the next step. What if there is an intruder and the teacher is out of the room? They have time to start killing kids before the good guy with a gun gets there. Should we then arm all of the students so that there will always be someone armed to deal with threats?

4 years ago

I believe by saying that the teacher is unlikely to shoot the students I was answering your question about whether I thought the teacher was going to shoot the children. If I wasn't clear enough let me know and I can try again.

4 years ago

but you never did answer my question, just walked around it without acknowledging it

4 years ago

no at all, but you're implying the teacher is going to pull out a gun and start cleaning it in the middle of class. which you not do. You don't need to clean your firearm everyday

4 years ago

The teacher is unlikely to shoot the children, but parents are unlikely to shoot their children too. Are you saying no children are killed to firearm accidents in the US?

4 years ago

With the new gun control laws proper training is required. Also the teacher would not be waving the gun around in class randomly.

4 years ago

Oh and the gatling gun, I've always wanted to own one... great piece of history. If you know where to buy one, let me know

4 years ago

I love it, you act as though the US is the only one that makes weapons or ammunition

4 years ago

armour piercing rounds aren't just made in US. Over bloated? lol, come up with a better one. If the teacher was armed you think they would accidentally shoot kids? if you can't trust a teacher with that then why trust a teacher with your child's mind

4 years ago

that doesn't make since

4 years ago

what!?

4 years ago

Here's another thought. How many children would die by introducing guns into schools? Kids die in accidental shootings far more often than school shootings.

4 years ago

when you create some gun control then these things will stop being so available. They will always be some illegal guns coming in.( all the ones coming into Canada come from Americans) but if you can't get the legally and there will be a lot less guns around. It will make it much harder for criminals to get them.

4 years ago

Maybe armor piercing ammunition is readily available in America. But you can't get it in Canada, Britain, France, or pretty well anywhere else. your ridiculously over bloated gun culture makes the stuff available. Because you think everyone deserves to have armor piercing rounds and a Gatling gun people will supply it.

4 years ago

the crazy a** walked into the school because he knew no one would be armed, easy targets to shoot

4 years ago

here is an idea, what if the teacher was armed and could have stopped the whole thing altogether

4 years ago

there is no regulations on something illegal, you can get it at any age. For example, armour piercing ammunition is illegal but is readily available to buy. it is not a lie it is the truth, it's just a matter if getting out and not being sheltered in your room

4 years ago

I was illustrating that, while banning does not prevent criminals from getting something, it does reduce availability and increase the price, which in turn limits the availability. BigB is lying and saying that illegal drugs are easier to purchase than legal drugs, thus trying to undermine the point.

4 years ago

Alex do you know what an analogy is?

4 years ago

we're talking about guns not drugs.

4 years ago

You honestly feel that it is easier to buy cocaine than Tylenol? What kind of neighborhood do you live in?

4 years ago

just like getting a weapon illegally

4 years ago

Hitmenjr I agree criminals will be criminals but with better gun control, it will be harder for criminals to get guns because of background checks and stuff. And good people who want guns will be trained better so they do not accidentally shoot someone.

4 years ago

illegal drugs are much easier to buy

4 years ago

So at what point do you feel justified in shooting your elected government?

4 years ago

Just like in the civil war...when the north did not do things in the best interests of all the states.

4 years ago

Gun laws also restrict the availability of prohibited weapons and inflate the black market prices due to reduced availability, limiting the number of guns available to those buying them illegally. Which is easier to buy now, illegal drugs or over the counter drugs?

4 years ago

Plus guns arn't only a defense aganced criminals....but also our own gov't. If we had nothing to keep our government in check, They could turn our country into a total left communist state...becuse our votes are not direct...but we have a little thing called electoral colleges.

4 years ago

Gun laws will only prevent people of geting guns by legal means...if you are a criminal it doesn't prevent them geting guns...thats why they are criminals...because they break the gun control laws...

4 years ago

Ah, I have had my votes get flipped like that on occasion. Now your arguments make a great deal more sense. (they already made sense but they seemed to be arguing against your position)

4 years ago

I want gun control, I voted disagree.

4 years ago

Beyond the assigning blame indirectly to Obama, your statement contradicts your vote. You want gun control, or else you wouldn't want any of those measures you have described controlling who has access to guns.

4 years ago

The two things are unrelated. The president hasn't accomplished anything related to gun control. so saying these things happen under him is pointless. he has nothing to do with it.

4 years ago

I want people who want guns for self defence to be able to have them, to defend themselves and their family. I want strict background checks, and limited guns avaliable to buy, no machine guns. I want people who buy guns to get proper training on how to use them.

This way good people who want guns get guns, and it makes it harder for criminals to get them.

4 years ago

I asked you a question, you answered it. thank you. I also said I was not blaming Obama I was just stating facts that under Obama school shooting took place.

4 years ago

And what gun laws has Obama instituted that you feel increased shootings?

4 years ago

When did I say that? I want responsible gun laws. Canada has guns, and laws governing who can buy them and what kinds are available. The US is the only nation I have ever heard of someone saying that the best solution to people being shot is to have more guns on the streets.

4 years ago

Yes there are also more schools in the US then anywhere. Also look up how many school shootings there were before Obama. I'm not entirely blaming Obama here, I am saying that the US under looser gun control laws did not have a problem.

What do you want no guns for anyone?

4 years ago

The argument is not that the guns are at fault, it is that the more readily available guns are, the more people will use them to kill people. Do you honestly believe that there are not more school shootings in the US than elsewhere?

4 years ago

It's always the person who shot the gun falt, unless the gun shoots itself.

4 years ago

so it's the shooter's fault when the lion died but the guns fault when people are killed?

4 years ago

the shooting in Organ took place in a gun free zone? The people could not defend themselves. If guns were outlawed, and America was a gun free zone, criminals will be criminals and break the law.
Back a long time ago the US outlawed alcoholic drinks. What happened? Criminals illegally imported beer and stuff. If this happened with guns criminals would have guns and regular law following people would not. Now criminals have gins, but don't shoot them as much because they know other people may have guns too.

4 years ago

an armed society is not a polite society... where there is peace,we don't need guns... where there are guns,I suppose, there can never be peace. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.An armed society will be a harmed society .

4 years ago

An armed society is a polite society

4 years ago

every developed country in the world has gun control. why would you think there shouldn't be any?

4 years ago
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