The debate "What's the difference between God and father Christmas" was started by
March 2, 2016, 10:15 am.
4 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 3 people are on the disagree side.
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danielle posted 4 arguments to the agreers part.
danielle, RyanWakefield and 2 visitors agree.
Jason9374 and 2 visitors disagree.
there are papers written by people much smarter then you. they use evidence and logic. as of now there is no evidence that proves
pond scum to fish, fish to lizard, lizard to monkey, and monkey to human.
extinct species don't count as solid evidence.
this is an excellent example of why we criticize you alex.
oh dear God. you really NEVER learn. we have explained to you a dozen times what the world theory means in a scientific context. you continue to use it wrong every time. a theory can be 100% definitely proven and still be considered a theory. that is how scientific terminology works. just because you can't understand it doesn't mean it isn't fact.
the reason there aren't tons of articles challenging evolution is because they can't. there simply is too much evidence proving it to be correct. they might as well argue that the sun is actually the God Apollo on his fiery chariot. you can't write a paper challenging something if you can't find evidence to support you.
because proven beyond doubt stuff never have tons of articles written by scientists questioning it, demanding proof and stuff. also it's only a theory.
except that it is proven beyond doubt at this point. denying it means you don't understand or you are intentionally not understanding. with you it is both.
whoa there jumping from 1 evolution to 10 evolution mighty quickly. I believe in evolution of inside a species. not evolution changing one species to another species.
ok... that was my point. that evolution did happen. that there is no "1st couple". thus proving that creationism is wrong.
what if evolution happened? evolution between species makes the species diverse. changes the DNA just right.
if there was only 2 ancestors there cannot be diversity. it isn't possible. how does making people not understand each other change their genetics? it doesn't seem to be related, let alone an explanation.
"without more generic diversity mankind would have gone extinct." the tower of bable, God created diversity. natraul selection guided by God may have helped too.
I never said it disproved god. I said it disproved creationism. which it does. why do you think everyone comes from a first pair? that isn't how evolution works. science has proven beyond doubt that there cannot be a single pair from whom all humans descended. without more generic diversity mankind would have gone extinct.
and there were other intelligent humanoids. Neanderthals for one. they all died out. they were unable to complete with the emerging humans, among other things.
again how does that disprove God, and everyone decedent from a 1st pair. after adam and. eve there was the tower of bable where God changed the lauguages of people, and sent them to different places. this might be what your thinking of. Why did only humans became rational, logical thinkers, why didn't evolution make another human-like creature that is rational, perhaps mermaids? XD
you are assuming that human beings jumped from monkeys to humans in one generation. this is a gross misunderstanding of evolution. there was no first pair of humans.
"creationism says God created Adam and Eve and all humans are their descendants."
all humans had to decent from 1 pair right? unless it just so happened that at the same time multiple humans mutated out of monkies
the story of Noah's ark says God drowned everyone on earth. it says that that all the animals on the earth were on his boat. if you take those away then what is left? a guy built a boat with some sheep on board and lived through a flood. it is a common story in the middle East because floods there did happen. but the the parts that make it a story about God have no evidence at all.
creationism says God created Adam and Eve and all humans are their descendants. science has proven that to be false as well. without God creating man and woman what is left? the whole story falls apart without that. I'm sure you will come up with a rationalization about how you can get around the Bible being wrong. but it is wrong.
I went to a catholic school and I live in GA. athiest liberals are not common in that place. Prodestants, however are all over the place, unfortunately there are none on this app.
I was brought up a catholic conservative, and I am one today still. the only real arguing with atheists I've done is on this app.
I actually watched a programme once about the Bible, and it was really interesting because it talked about where the Bible stories come from. I'm not disputing that there wasn't a flood because there probably was. what I'm disputing is intelligent design by an omnipotent being. Whether that's God or some other intelligent being, I don't know.
But because I do science and find it thoroughly interesting for me it makes more sense than God. I'm actually an agnostic, because like you said I can't know for sure that God isn't real. However for me science is what makes more sense and therefore the most likely truth.
I also feel that religion is unfair, I don't want to offend you or anything but can I ask, where you bought up with religion or did you become religious?
take creation story. God made
2. ocean creatures
3. land creatures
take science evolution happened
2. water creatures
3. land creatures
another match. I thought you said they prove each other wrong, but it seems they agree. I'm confused.
creationism and Noah's ark are not directly disproved in any way. misconceptions of what they are, yes those are proved wrong. like Noah's ark. Noah did not bring 2 of every animal on the ark, nor did the flood cover the whole world. Somewhere in the middle east scientists found a region that looked like a flood happened about 7,000 years ago. they stopped studying there because of ISIS.
the creation story can be true will evolution, it can be true without evolution, it can be true with a little bit of evolution. since God is true, and science is also fact filled, the two go together nicely. it's when you take not 100% science and outcome C of religion, they contridict. but take scientific fact (flood somewhere in the middle east 7k years ago) with religion (flood with Noah who lived about 7k years ago)
they match up nicely.
The reason you can't disprove religion is because religious people always find an "excuse", there's always an " explanation" but really none of these explanations actually make any scientific sense!
science has disproven things religion says. creationism, Noah's ark, etc. you cannot disprove God because religion is designed to be unprovable. so while yes scientific advancements disprove parts of religion, they cannot disprove God.
ok evolution does not disprove God. as I said in another debate the knowledge of science Is
^biology, geology ect.
biology can't draw conclusions about God and physics. unless a clear demonstration is done. it is impossible to do so with evolution. why couldn't have God guided evolution? is that not in his power? does religion say otherwise? that is why biology can't draw conclusions about God.
pretty much all science provides evidence agaisnt God.
the idea of God is just so far fetched.
the laws of physics for one!
science can provide strong evidence that neither exist.
what evidence is against God? remember science can't draw conclusions about God science God is higher in knowledge then science.
I ask because both
-reward you if you're good
-punish you if you're bad
-lack evidence proving their existence
-give faith to people
-are so far fetched
-perform incredible feats (God and the creation story and Santa and flying round the world in one night)
-science can provide strong evidence that neither exist.
my conclusion....it it is illogical to believe in Santa then it is illogical go believe in God.