The debate "Who hires and pays the terroristsn" was started by
June 11, 2017, 4:03 pm.
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it's sad that u try to assume that everyone is stupid and uneducated when they all actually debate better. either admit ur a troll or say what ur problem is because I'm tired of all the stupidity.
Isis does invade other countries and kill people. many being Christians. it's is naive to believe we support them.
Neveralone, you are too naive. Sometimes thats a good thing but a lot of the time its a bad thing. However you are also uneducated, which is always a bad thing. Syria isnt trying to kill the usa lmao. syria is living in syria, not invading other countries half way across the world, raping their women and then stealing their oil!
If you understand, why did you ask "why do these pieces of shits oppose Assad but have no problem with the Saudi Royal Family?" Did you forget that's what prompted my response? You ask why the government oppresses a political opponent, but not an allied nation. If you understand, why ask?
Assad has repressed opposition and killed or imprisoned journalists, protestors, and generally anyone who speaks out against him. That tends to be frowned upon. He has reportedly used chemical weapons on his own people. Do you think that is a good thing, or do you agree that such a leader should be opposed?
we do not finance isis. they are completely against our way of life. now we obviously would help the ones who will cooperate with us. who is going to try to cooperate with someone trying to kill u or just fight agaisnt u on everything? I think most Americans (including u) wish to use our own resorses to get out of debt and better ourselves.
psychdave, you are an inbred goatf***er who deserves to die of disease. what was the point of you literally just repeating everything that i already said but in a shittier way? dont you have a brain of your own? dumbass. Of course Syria has better relations with Russia than USA, who the f*** wouldnt want to? Why would you want to have better relatio s with a country that only wants you as a puppet than a country which is a genuine ally? If assad wants better relations with russia than the usa, that is their govts choice. it does not give the usa the right to invade them or get involved in any of their internal politics. hope that wasnt too much for your dyslexic mind to understand.
Anybody with a brain (which excludes you) is aware that the US has a history of funding all rebel groups that oppose their main enemy. The usa is obviously funding everybody opposing assad, even if they do kill each other as well, because their main enemy is assad and none of the others would ever be capable of standing up against the usa.
I know that the paragraphs may have been too big for you to understand but you are free to recite it to yourself as many times as you want until you understand it, you autustic child lmaoooo.
Yes, the Saudis have a better relationship with the US. I wonder if that influences how they get along? What are you, a child. Of course having better trade relationships influences international politics.
Assad has tied himself more closely with Russia, and has no official relations with the US. How limited is your education that you don't understand even the basics of international politics?
You also haven't done anything to support your claim that the US is funding ISIS other than claim it. The US is openly supplying other groups that are opposed to both Assad and ISIS, however these fighters are attacking ISIS, so how exactly do you equate the two?
Kurdish rebels are fighting both ISIS and Assad, and Assad and the Russians are bombing both ISIS and the Kurds. As far as they are concerned, one rebel group is as good as another. The US has no problem with the Kurdish rebels since they have no issues with the US and simply want to be independent. That doesn't mean supplying rebel fighters that have been declared terrorists by the local government is acceptable, but to claim that they are part of ISIS is dishonest and, frankly, stupid.
I see where you might get confused if you didn't bother to look into it at all though.
Lmao you are one naive guy, just as youd expect from someone called Dave loooool! of course the usa is funding IS. if you truly believe they see them as an enemy, you are a fool. Politically speaking, the usa sees any govt which puts their own citizens interests above the us govts interests as a threat. Assad is President who, like most strong leaders that dont cower, doesnt give a shit about the US and doesnt obey them to give them oil etc. Thats why theyre attacking his country and funding IS, which is fighting against him. They know that eventually when he is toppled, the country will be even more unstable than it already is and then the usa will have an excuse to occupy the land and rob the oil like they did in Iraq. Tell me, why do these pieces of shits oppose Assad but have no problem with the Saudi Royal Family? Judicially and politically speaking, Assad was much more lenient as a leader abd in fact quite logical and just if you watch his interviews. so whats the only other difference? the saudis give usa cheap oil, thats what. anybody who disagrees is a complete shitface with no thinking ability.
Yes, the US has funded "freedom fighters" (read terrorists). The US government and their agencies have long embraced the idea that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, without anticipating long term consequences. They are not funding ISIS, probably since they are considered an enemy. Instead, they are working with the Russians, who have traditionally been the enemy. Its shortsighted, but most nations do it to some extent.
When have I denied that there are Buddhist terrorists? There are Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, and atheist terrorists. There are conservative and liberal terrorists. Why can't you stick to things I've said? I'm flattered that you think about and imagine me so often, but your pretend version is not actually me.
Are you denying that ISIS exists? A simple yes or no will suffice.
you lie because you are with the crooks and terrorists who only fight against Muslims for disobeying you.
Look at how easily you pretend the cow and diva worshipping Hindus don't terrorize and attack because we like T-bone, Rib-eye, even Porterhouse steaks.
You pretend the Buddhists don't murder and terrorize when one of their women defects to our side, because she has decided the Muslim man is actually worthy of more and better women.
You pretend those criminal cannibals of Central Africa Republic aren't existing either.
We know this because you don't label them atrocious terrorists as they actually are. You don't have pet names for them and blanket the media with news of their latest scandal.
You hide them, so you can fight Muslims with those crooks.
The answers to your questions are quite simple. The US. The US fundsand supports terror grouos like it has been doing for decades because they benefit from the havoc caused. Thats why they topple governments and everybody wants them out. Theyre the tyrants of the world. They torture and brutalise every country they step their foot in but act nice enough to their own citizens for them to grow into pussy bit ges and not revolt.
So after having a reasonable conversation, you lapse into calling anyone who disagrees a liar. Why can't you have a conversation like an adult?
Are you denying that the Islamic State exists? What about Boca Harem? How exactly do you deny the existence of groups that publicly proclam their intentions and actions?
Your allies are lying as well.
You and your allies are the ones attacking and killing because they won't accept police as their Gods or the laws of police as their bible.
So you send tanks, drones, and cruise missiles as your answer.
But if what they want is for everyone to believe what they believe and be ruled under them, what do you offer them to make them stop? I'm not saying that all they want is to kill. They want to rule the world in their corrupted interpretation of religion.
Nobody is killing and terrorizing because all they want is death. They actually want something more than full graves.
For reference, I doubt that you would abandon your faith for money. From what I know of you, you have strongly held beliefs that guide your life and morals. You would never abandon the because someone offered you money, and would probably be insulted that someone would try.
I am in no way saying your values are like theirs. You have never endorsed murder or genocide. I just wanted to explain why paying them would probably not work.
Those that want a global Muslim caliphate under them would be hard to pay off. Those who feel that all westerners are their enemies don't need to be bought, they just need westerners to stop treating them as the enemy so we can find common ground.
Why can't the terrorists simply be bought out?
Surely they have petty grievances.
It depends on the terrorist and the cause. The US has funded and supplied "freedom fighters" to oppose their enemies (like Russia). The terrorism in Ireland was funded by those who wanted an independent Ireland. The terrorists in Quebec were likewise killing in the name of separation. The current terrorist organizations in the middle east have vast resources from local players as well as the resources of the nations they have seized. Various terrorists in the US and Europe are not funded because they are essentially lone wolves who are acting in the name of larger organization. It doesn't take much funding to drive a truck through a crowd or shoot random people with a rifle.