Why are we encouraging woman to embrace being fat when they can help it

March 9, 2016, 10:48 am

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The debate "Why are we encouraging woman to embrace being fat when they can help it" was started by NerdTagz on March 9, 2016, 10:48 am. 16 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 8 people are on the disagree side. People are starting to choose their side. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

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NerdTagz, ProudAmerican888, Bodaciouslady16, ototoxic, logicxreason, ReadyToBegin, fadi, Burnin and 8 visitors agree.
RyanWakefield, historybuff, SwaggerPoptart and 5 visitors disagree.

NerdTagz
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Of course people need to stop being so insecure and just need to accept that the healthy weight is the best weight and instead of putting others down just out of insecurity and jealousy. Models have feelings to so calling them aneroxic is like calling someone overweight fat yet she would get more hate. Its getting way better though there are some magazines where they don't allow unhealthy weight models on there magazines. Well at least skinny. I don't know about fat.

3 years, 4 months ago

that is absolutely true. I have a sister that is very thin. if some of my friends tried to be that thin it would be very unhealthy for them. we should encourage people to accept the way they look. and I agree, we should not encourage people to be obese either. but they are just the opposite pole from the vast majority of advertising which shows incredibly skinny as the ideal. they are just the other side of the same problem. but they are a far smaller voice than the main stream media pushing for tiny models.

3 years, 4 months ago
NerdTagz
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Okay maybe you were right on that. I must admit I'm wrong on that part but I don't believe the way to solve it is to encourage overweight models as well. Maybe the fact that I'm so use to being around thin people I forgot most of the models are relatively tall to so yes but at the same time doesn't mean extra body fat is any better either. What I was talking about is that I see lately a lot overweight/obese people being encouraged to embrace there body fat and I see models as well. I can't say all the models are unhealthy but most of them are either too skinny or too fat. Being healthy is what I think should be encouraged and we all have an idea what a healthy weight looks like but doesn't mean just because you see someone skinny that there unhealthy. I have a lot of thin people in my family as well as friends so its a gene thing to.

3 years, 4 months ago

well the fact that the majority of models are rediculously small is common knowledge. but have a look at http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/01/most-models-meet-criteria-for-anorexia-size-6-is-plus-size-magazine/ if you want to read about it.

3 years, 4 months ago
NerdTagz
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the last time I saw an overweight woman in a catalog was yesterday.

3 years, 4 months ago
NerdTagz
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So your stating basically that the vast majority of models are unhealthy because they look thin. Where did you get this from?

3 years, 4 months ago
NerdTagz
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and plenty of magazines have overweight models. I'm guessing you don't really look at catalog magazines much :/

3 years, 4 months ago
NerdTagz
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So the vast majority of models are unhealthy because they look thin? this is an opinion. why don't you give me your sources since your telling me to.

3 years, 4 months ago

I'm not going to do your research for you. I'm not saying over weight models don't exist. but when was the last time you opened a magazine and saw a fat woman modeling the newest bikini? the vast majority of models are thin, unhealthy levels of thin. just because there are exceptions does not change the overall trend of advertising.

3 years, 4 months ago
NerdTagz
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Please just go to Google if you never seen an overweight model lol.

3 years, 4 months ago

what models have you seen that are over weight?

3 years, 4 months ago
NerdTagz
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oh really? no overweight models?

3 years, 4 months ago

there are virtually no models who are actually over weight. the term plus sized model actually means something close to a normal person.

3 years, 4 months ago

I meant regular plus size as in overweight people

3 years, 4 months ago

plus size meaning overweight

3 years, 4 months ago
PsychDave
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Look up women's size 12. That is a plus sized woman. Are you honestly saying that this is an unhealthy weight? And that is the heavier end of plus sized models.

I will provide a Lind to an ABC news article about the topic. It mentions that women who are size 4-6 would only be considered for plus sized modelling roles now.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/01/most-models-meet-criteria-for-anorexia-size-6-is-plus-size-magazine/

I think people hear the words plus sized and assume that means obese. Before you talk about how models are healthy, keep in mind that most of them do meet the medical criteria for anorexia. That doesn't mean they are all unhealthy, but to set that as the standard means that girls and women who want to look good need to lose almost a quarter of their body weight (based on the 2014 ABC article) to fit the ideal. Do you honestly think encouraging girls to drop that much weight is a healthy message?

3 years, 4 months ago

So the image now a days is aneroxic. We need to lift everybody up. not put others down just because of insecurities. plus size shouldn't be encouraged but plenty of sizes that are a little thick are healthy. People dismiss beauty and always have something to say when they can't achieve something so easily.

3 years, 4 months ago
NerdTagz
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Most models aren't even aneroxic. There healthy. People act like its impossible to be skinny. Its not and I don't know why models have to get hate for it just because people are insecure. Plus size isn't really healthy. Plus size is plus extra in size. I get it theres different type of body shapes but people are to insecure. I admit I'm chubby and I've been losing weight but I'm not calling models aneroxic just because they have a slim body.

3 years, 4 months ago

why women specifically?

3 years, 4 months ago
PsychDave
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Where are you getting that idea. This is a link contrasting the average model to the average American woman. It also sites its sources so you can fact check it. It is from 2014 but unless you can point to a major shift in society in the last two years it would still be accurate with minor changes.

http://thoughtfulwomen.org/2014/03/19/average-woman-vs-average-model/

While there are certainly people saying that being obese is OK as long as you are happy with yourself, the vast majority of people trying to encourage "plus size models" and the like just want society to get back to a healthy image of what a body should be instead of encouraging anorexia.

3 years, 4 months ago
NerdTagz
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Most models don't look like that anyway. They accept themselves and know they have imperfections. They look like normal everyday woman accept maybe pretty or a beautiful facial features.
I mean when I see plus size models, or girls taking pictures of themselves and basically saying I accept myself the way I am and you don't have to. so sensitive and insecure

3 years, 4 months ago

This is based on the premise that we are encouraging women to embrace being fat. I have yet to see that. What I have seen is women being encouraged not to be anorexic and strive for unrealistic and unhealthy body images.

3 years, 4 months ago
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