The debate "Why do you think Islam is so violent" was started by
December 18, 2017, 9:34 pm.
18 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 16 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.
biosdaddy posted 2 arguments, Nemiroff posted 1 argument, MetalClaw99 posted 2 arguments to the agreers part.
historybuff posted 1 argument, Nemiroff posted 6 arguments to the disagreers part.
Ben, biosdaddy, Austynbb, MetalClaw99, Sabertoothwolf and 13 visitors agree.
Niel, afterlife27, Nemiroff, Knockout and 12 visitors disagree.
You are a liar who doesn't know what he is talking about. You are lying on Islam because you just mad that homosexual sodomy and tattoos are illegal and you want it legal. You are angry that men like you are allowed only one wife before you die and go to live inside of hell forever . You are angry that Muslim men are allowed 4 wives before they leave Earth and get those same 4 wives in heaven.
so your saying that Islam worships both Jesus Christ and the anti Christ? That's the kind of yin yang duality I can respect.
.... I don't think you know much about Islam. how exactly does Muhammad fit the anti Christ description?
aculty it will not be, islam is the worship of the antichrist, that is why not because they are the "final" religion, that is something they can never be.
Islam is so vilonte mainly because in the Tora it tells them to kill, not only that but they're savoir is the antichrist, and there is evidence backing this, such as the antichrist and islams savior have the same descriptions.
No religion teaches violence. It's being taught and practiced by us among ourselves for our selfish motives.
And greed, self-love is not limited to any one particular religion so how can violence be?
Christianity is force. Subtle force of forcing people to eat pork is slick. Claiming Jesus ordered people to eat pork is all too apparent in McDonald's strategy. Bacon and sausages don't have to be made from pigs.
The battle of intelligence is convincing people that pork is the only acceptable breakfast meat.
Dunkin donuts is not participating in the force feeding of pork strategy.
Great subterfuge all around though.
it is a problem, and the people who carried out the attack as well as the actors who supported them should be brought to justice, but I can't support collective punishment.
Also, I can't logical blame their faith when most of their victims and most of the people fighting against them are of that same faith. Also the fact that the vast vast majority of Muslims are completely peaceful.
Along with an attempt to do it to the White House and the Pentagon. one of which did succeed.
well it is also a problem for America considering that they've killed our veterans and crashed planes into our trade center.
I think we would have noticed if billions of people started being violent suddenly. it would be ALOT worse then anything that has happened in reality.
Also, most of the victims of these violent Muslims are nonviolent muslims.... so how is this a Muslim thing? I don't get it.
no, they are not. no one said every Muslim is peaceful, can Christianity claim 0 violence even today? there is certainly way too much violence coming from there, but why does everyone jump on religion and not on the fact that they are coming from an unstable, poor, 3rd world region, full of authoritarian states put together against their will suddenly after ww1? that couldn't have anything to do with it?
look, all you need is a pair of eyes. Crashing planes into buildings, murdering other religions, killing atheist, killing gays, oppressing women, and conquering land are not peaceful Acts.
many other religions have done horrible things like the vatican saving nazis who tortured kids and gave them houses but in islam its written that theyre the final religion
well past wise we were ignorant of the Bible saying because we had no access. now it could be for multiple reasons. ignorance (seen my fair share), feeling of powerlessness, blind hatred born from fear sturred up by politicians, and Satan's work. either way we need a wake-up.
strange ain't it? it's a huge problem that has infected the church. it needs to be fixed. so we can get backed to doing what were supposed to do.
I can't really defend such acts. I can only explain why I think they do.
but how can Christians be so easily convinced to act in such an an anti poor, anti neighbor, unChristian manner?
just compare the treatment of gays in the modern American church vs the way Jesus treated sinners, he washed their feet! he hugged them! he welcomed them. Jesus said not to judge, yet that's all modern Christians do. instead of welcoming them and if they won't quit the gayness, there are other ways of being a good Christian, and then god can sort them out at the pearly gates.
to betray their base tenants so much, I can't even blame the puppetmasters.
agreed. we are used for our numbers and filled with empty promises. and yet we still believe them.
he lost control. it's what happens when you tell someone they can do anything and there is no consequences.
not anymore. personally I'm talking about people like isis leadership and the like.
the hadiths are not all Islamic cannon. some are extremely questionable and rejected by most religious Muslims and their legitimacy is questioned.
kinda like how there are tons of gospels but the Catholic church only accepts like 5.
in other words some hadiths are completely irrelevant. can you show me promotion of violence in the Quran itself?
then you know nothing about Islam. I suggest you start reading Koran and hadith to understand how violent it is.
the fact that he didn't control their actions in war doesn't excuse the fact that he mobilized them against an undeserving foe for political, internal reasons. and likely knowing full well what humans always do in war.
I would argue that the ultimate puppetmasters of the misguided masses of the American Christian right are the Republican moneyed interests (various elite and mega Corporations) seeking to get people riled up over social issues so they can trick them into a corrupt economic agenda.
then again the moneyed interests have always been the puppetmasters... unless Someone with an army decided to use force.
he's hardly a puppet master if he had no control over them.
again, who? there are less wars going on today than at most points in human history. it's not like there are wars everywhere.
he let the beast out and got bit. it was his sayings that made them think it was okay and turn into a fervor.
the agrivators. the leaders. the ones leading the sheep to the slaughter.
the Pope was critical on starting the Crusades. but ultimately he didn't have much control over the actions of the crusaders. he even excommunicated a bunch of them.
what leadership are puppet masters today?
sorry for the delayed response the app was glitching to where I couldn't post.
I would say the pope for the crusades and leadership for the current.
and who or what puppet master was controlling the crusades?
who is controlling people today?
past vs present though. the crusades and currently can be seen as similar in some ways. one of the biggest is we/they are puppets to a puppet master.
Robbers and homosexuals always claim to be Christians because they can lie on Jesus and live inside the prisons, far away from guns, far away from the presence of wives and newborn babies.
Again, not all muslims are dangerous. Most of them are nice and humble people who dont give a damn about ISIS or other religious terror groups.
Similary, Christians got some violent people like the ku klux klan. That doesnt mean all christians are murderers
Islam is violent because it has got violent followers who are being subjected to the lie that 'west is destroying islam' by their stupid wahabbi clerics sitting and monitoring ISIS activities from the terrorist safe heaven of Turkey, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
no. the Crusades were a result of political problems in Europe. there wasn't much in the way of violence by Muslims against Christians. it was just an easy excuse, like say weapons of mass destruction.
Islam is no more inherently violent than Christianity or most other religions.
islam isnt violent but indeed some people who never read their own holy books and are subjected to lies of few religious leaders. Applies to all religions.
We're talking about Islam here. Crusades was just a reaction to Islamic violence
Islam isn't any more violent than Christianity. have you ever read about the Crusades?
The false gods and opponents of Islam are violent. They have gun, knives, and bombs.