The debate "Why is drinking more socially acceptable than smoking Why aren't both being phased out" was started by
January 19, 2016, 6:51 pm.
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that's just the way it is. I don't know why that is.
I feel like it is more accepted. I see people drinking in public at amusement parks and other places like that (just not getting completely wasted), but smokers are confined.
I'm tired of seeing little kids walk around near a bunch of almost drunks
drinking is not more socially acceptable. There are laws and you cannot drink and drive. Also no public place other than a bar wants you to come in drunk. However, I hate smokers and wished smoking would be illegal just like many drugs cause its harmful as can be and harmful to everything around.
"people do not want to exercise. it is a basic fact of human nature. so saying it could replace alcohol is simply not true."
-- We should promote it. Not everyone wants to drink, but we have a drinking culture and drug culture that promotes it through media. We should handle this and work on making exersice and other alternatives more socially accepted and liked. Though beer dates back to the Mesopotamian days, it was not to get drunk or relax, but for drinking purposes (as in water). We do not need to drink alcohol. Habits also play a part in this and so does how you were raised.
"and marijuana requires heavy use in the long term in order to cause problems. if used in moderation you can use it for a long time with no problem. marijuana can cause harm, but so can Tylenol, so can water if you drink enough of it. anything in high enough doses can cause harm. so saying that it can be harmful is disingenuous. "
-But is its harmful. They are found in car crashes and misused. I believe that the fact that it can be misused so easily as a drug it should not be allowed. But why are we discussing marijuana? This is a discussion on alcohol and smoking cigarettes. That is true that anything can be harmful and teaching regulation is good. Your right, there are better natural alternatives to Tylenol. Don't use so much. Rest.
- Don't just simply call me disingenous for disagreeing with you.
"try to leave morals out of such issues. it is not an issue of morals."
-- Morals are always part of political debates. Especially one of opinion like this. It is made in such a way. My morals define what I do and for many others. I'm sure you use morals for different causes as well. At least at some point.
people do not want to exercise. it is a basic fact of human nature. so saying it could replace alcohol is simply not true.
and marijuana requires heavy use in the long term in order to cause problems. if used in moderation you can use it for a long time with no problem. marijuana can cause harm, but so can Tylenol, so can water if you drink enough of it. anything in high enough doses can cause harm. so saying that it can be harmful is disingenuous.
try to leave morals out of such issues. it is not an issue of morals.
"because exercise is not relaxing, and it is not a social catalyst. i dont see how it is even relevant to the topic. "
- exersice does make people feel better afterwards and leads to an escape to life. I'm talking about alternatives. It is relavent to my point about other things that can be down for relaxing other than drug use. It relates think about my point a bit more.
"marijuana is much less bad for you than most other substances used for fun. the adverse effects only occur with prolonged and heavy use. when used is reasonable doses there are no adverse effects at all. why would you not accept it?"
- If it is your goto relaxer and aid to not stress wouldn't it be prolonged? Wouldn't you use it longer? Again with smoking, it was a helper with stress for some mentally, but not good. I dislike harmful drugs in general and don't see the need. More of a moral thing.
because exercise is not relaxing, and it is not a social catalyst. i dont see how it is even relevant to the topic.
marijuana is much less bad for you than most other substances used for fun. the adverse effects only occur with prolonged and heavy use. when used is reasonable doses there are no adverse effects at all. why would you not accept it?
Everything can be a good "relaxer" if used responsibly. That is not always the case. Smoking calmed people down and relaxed them, but was still a hazard. I hope society sees the issue and phases it out.
As for marijuana, I accept it only for medical uses, but not recreation. It is the second most found drug to be in car crashes. I don't view it positively for fun.
Why can't people preform safe and healthy relaxers? Exersice can combat the obesity epidemic while drinking aids it.
people need something to relax, or a social catalyst. alcohol works well in that role if used responsibly. marijuana will likely be legal in Canada soon so that will work as well.
True. I hope that alcohol will be as well.
"you can't phase out a drug that's legal already that will cause a lot of problems. if a drug is illegal I think the reason this is because they don't need to worry about another druh being used."
-They are phasing out smoking which has a drug in it. Not if is regestered as socially unacceptable to do said drug. Smoking is frowned upon now, but was cool years back.
I'm not talking about legal and illegal, but people still worry about drunk drivers and overdosing/alcholics even though it is legal to drink. The illegal ones are just against the law and seen as more of a threat. Still needing to be worried about.
lots of drugs have been phased out. opium and cocaine just off the top of my head.
you can't phase out a drug that's legal already that will cause a lot of problems. if a drug is illegal I think the reason this is because they don't need to worry about another druh being used.
Then why aren't both being phased out? Did you misunderstand my question?
Its not that at all. it is the fact that if smoking become acceptable there one more drug to worry about.
true you dont smoke and crash a car into someones house or steal someones undies
urmm I think it was from my year 9 science class, so 5 years ago now, my teacher said it although I don't know where he heard it from and how accurate it is.
Whoa what? Where did you hear that from?
As for the others. Smoking was socially acceptable in the past but now that more people know the effects it is being banned. They can't even market the same way they use to. Drinking on the other hand can. I think you are probably right that smoking kills more, but a life is a life. Why are we counting bodies?
I've heard that if alcohol was invented these days it would have been made an illegal class A drug!
since before prohibition drinking was all the people had to enjoy themselves it became apart of everyday life. so much apart of everyday life that mostly everyone down south knew how so manufacture their own! then it was considered illegal and that and the devastation was real!, the people wanted it more(like wanting what you cant have) and they all went to great a existent to get there "hooch" n that fight i believe strengthened the presence of alcohol basically making it one of our rights to take a sip here and there and more socially acceptable.. with smoking it was unjustly criminalized just like alcohol but the difference was more prople were against it at first, because of lies Misconceptions etc, and had to be turned into supporters. the opposite was for alcohol to me that's why its more acceptable. as far as being phased out.. they will never get phased out drugs are too awesome lol
it does less damage